Retroshift
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Do you have to have been a DJ to become a better producer? If so, how much is it easier to produce if u know how to mix dnbrecords?
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spudleyq 
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I was a producer for like 7 years before I even started mixing.....so I'd say that your ability to DJ has nothing whatsoever to do with your ability to produce.
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14-01-2005 18:33 |
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Surora23
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really makes no difference...although it is preffered that you are a dj that spins your own stuff...
B said something along the lines of the typical occurances are that there are Good prodicers who can dj or Dj's who cant produce.... 
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Retroshift
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Well yeah, but it costs alot of money to put your own track on vinyl no?
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Surora23
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Well yeah, but it costs alot of money to put your own track on vinyl no? |
it does. but thats kind of the point of cd turntables now...its a lot cheaper...but if youre from the us and get it pressed in the us it will cost around 70$, if you buy form the uk,. itll; cost around 120$ !
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peet
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Well yeah, but it costs alot of money to put your own track on vinyl no? |
it does. but thats kind of the point of cd turntables now...its a lot cheaper...but if youre from the us and get it pressed in the us it will cost around 70$, if you buy form the uk,. itll; cost around 120$ ! |
get a cdj my good friend
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14-01-2005 18:58 |
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spudleyq
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peet speaks from the heart man. He makes a good point. I've always felt the same way about DJ's. 
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Well yeah, but it costs alot of money to put your own track on vinyl no? |
it does. but thats kind of the point of cd turntables now...its a lot cheaper...but if youre from the us and get it pressed in the us it will cost around 70$, if you buy form the uk,. itll; cost around 120$ ! |
I can get it done for $40 american.
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14-01-2005 18:59 |
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Retroshift
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i totally agree, producers deserve most respect 
luckily they still can stick their name on the tracks they make
cheerio
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14-01-2005 19:02 |
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Surora23
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This is a great thread to drop my own opinion about this totally annoying occurence.
I really hate it. People who dj, and then they're like 'Yeah I should better start producing cause it's the next step'. Oh damn no. I can vomit over those people man. Produce if you WANT to produce, not to get ahead in whatever youre wanting to go ahead in. Producing is MAKING music. DJing is PLAYING music. BIG difference.
I have never understood the reasoning of DJs and I've learn to shut up about it and not start discussions cause I always get lots of people on my ass for doing so. The thing is. DJing is imho just publishing a book of favourite poems in a nice classy lay-out. Producing is writing poems. I can't believe that nobody sees that DJs are in a way totally missing out and don't even have so much of a real reason to exist except for that the 'poets' need them.
Another risky sentence to say but I believe that the amount of energy you need to put into DJing to be good (apart from the booking and ego shit) is far oh so ------ far removed from the amount of energy and will you have to put in to producing.
I have a dj-set but I don't like mixing so much. Why? Well cause it's fun. For real it's fun to do. But I could never see it as something serious. It's fun to perform, smoke a cig, ego-trip like every other dj, but it's far from making music.
Far. Far. Far.
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WELL PUT!!!!....
I started dj'ing before i started producing..and peets right..its so fun...and there are too many dj's that think theyre like the best in the world...When BPM magazine dubs you #1 drumnbass dj/producer in the USA (dieselboy) then you can walk around flaunting your shit...
I dont get Dj's either...Just the other day i got into an argument with someone who trie4d telling me tiesto is the #1 dj period..and then he went on baout how he has to set up his equipment etc...by the end i cauhgt him in a lie and he looked stupid...he didnt say a word after...dumb dj's lol...
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14-01-2005 19:03 |
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spudleyq
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14-01-2005 19:06 |
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Retroshift
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Hahaha, for a moment there i thought this was the comedy section.
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It's funny to talk about Tiesto cause I'm Dutch and we're all in some kind of love-hate way proud of him. If I tell (esp older) people about my music stuff they always laugh and say 'you're gonna be the next tiesto!', and haha I'm always like 'shit don't say that'
. Any way. He lives in my town. And the reason he has became so big is simply DJ-ing his ass off, having luck, being born in the Netherlands (we're the world's #1 dance nation).
I lost track of the point I was gonna make so I'll better stop haha.
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14-01-2005 19:21 |
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spudleyq
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How can you possibly know the #1 dance country in the world? That would take a ridiculous amount of research on subjects and areas that are purposefully kept out of the eye of the public. It's like saying "the #1 movie ever made"......how could you ever possibly know that?
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14-01-2005 19:27 |
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Retroshift
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Belgium is the worlds #1 dance nation
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anywayz its funny coz producers look to djs the same way as the actual producers look to producers, i mean those who use real bassguitars and drums and not some compproggy,
haha, stuff to argue about :p
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So tiësto knows how to plug in a cinch? He must be really smart then! 
DJ'ing and producing are indeed 2 different things, but they are both about working with music. And that is the main reason why u should do any of them, because u love music! I don't consider producing as a "next step" to dj'ing, but a lot of dj's want to produce because if u score with even just 1 track it really gives your carreer as dj a major boost. I disagree on the part that dj'ing is so much easier then producing. DJ'ing is so much more than just beatmixing. U can add a lot of creativity in it, working with other peoples music. I mean look at the good dj's, I mean the really good ones. People who can put a flow, a vibe, build things up, control the crowd, mix in a creative and interesting way. None of them are teenagers, even hardly any in their twenty's.(with all respect for young people dj'ing - some are also very good, but there is so much difference) Being really really good in dj'ing takes a whole lot of experience. And so does being really really good in producing, so maybe they aren't that different after all.
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peet
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Belgium is the worlds #1 dance nation ,
anywayz its funny coz producers look to djs the same way as the actual producers look to producers, i mean those who use real bassguitars and drums and not some compproggy,
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whoa whoa whoa......I don't understand the difference between playing a real electric guitar through an amp........and playing a real electric guitar through a computer to make it sound like a synthesized reece bass. It still takes the same amount of musical knowledge and talent. There's no difference between playing a grand piano......and playing a synthesizer keyboard. |
i think he's talking about producers in the sense of pop producers. you know. making beats for ashanti, janet and usher. oh and snoop ofcourse
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