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Surora23
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I had a good friend of mine whos a good producer talk to me about his lil secret about bass lines...wasnt anything new but i was curious...what he does is layer 2 basslines, one with hi freq's and the other low...leaving a gap in the middle for the drums to lay in.,..
BUT how does this work without some kind of phasing of the basslines? im tryed it but it sounds like im adding a flange effect...waht am i doing wrong?
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11-01-2005 18:37 |
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B-complex
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It's simple..
you take one you want to use as a sub, 808kick or some kind of sinewave will work, you filter out everything behind let's say 90hz and you layer another bassline where you cut all frequencies bellow say 110hz, and you have now space 90-110hz for your bassdrum to kick.. not layer 2 basslines on a same frequency it's pointless. You should leave bass spectrum under 200hz monophonic.
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11-01-2005 19:04 |
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thechronic
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Use different sounds for the two basslines, if you use the same sound for both you're gonna get phasing.
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11-01-2005 19:31 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by thechronic
Use different sounds for the two basslines, if you use the same sound for both you're gonna get phasing. |
yea i wasnt 100% sure wht he menat when he explained it...
thanks you guys...
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11-01-2005 19:47 |
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BigFire
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the dual freq is key, just like in the previous post.
Never have gotten into leaving space for the drums until recently. Guys this chages stuff up for me in a great way i can really notice the dynamics of the drum come through when i doe 250 cuts and 5k cuts in cetain sound flooding the spectrum. Thanks alot!
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11-01-2005 20:14 |
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Halph-Price
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why nota notch filter on the bass where the kick should be?
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11-01-2005 21:06 |
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Surora23
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tried it...this was is much better and gives you a much fuller sound...clean imo...works very welll....
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11-01-2005 21:10 |
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thechronic
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Yeah Halph is right, you should notch out the frequency in the bass where the kick is sitting, just sweep the EQ between 60-120Hz until you find the sweet spot.
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12-01-2005 08:38 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by thechronic
Yeah Halph is right, you should notch out the frequency in the bass where the kick is sitting, just sweep the EQ between 60-120Hz until you find the sweet spot. |
well then thats what i was doing wrong
thanks again...
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12-01-2005 17:28 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by B-complex
there are various methods to do the same thing
but advantage of using 2 separate bassline is that you can use more effects on the "mid"bass in sub spectrum the best choice is to keep monohpohonic sine-sub and on the "higher" bass you can use distortion chorus and similar effects..
if you use just one notched bassline, you put these effects on whole spectrum including the subs |
thats what i was refering to when i said it didnt work...CHEERS!
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12-01-2005 18:28 |
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Halph-Price
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personaly i'd do 2 basslines, you keep a nice steady sounding sub and can change the mid tones. heard it done, sounded sweet.
i assume, because the sub never changed.
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12-01-2005 21:15 |
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And kill the freq'z below 40 Hz... cannot be heard anyway, and will ruin the phat punch of the kick...
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13-01-2005 18:19 |
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B-complex
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Originally posted by muaddib
And kill the freq'z below 40 Hz... cannot be heard anyway, and will ruin the phat punch of the kick...
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I think under 20hz would be better option in fact I can clearly hear 40hz tone
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13-01-2005 19:02 |
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Some people can hear below 20.....20 is just the average lowest audible frequency for humans.
Bats can hear up to 150KHz!!!
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13-01-2005 19:12 |
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Muad'Dib
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I can hear 30 Hz bass sound clearly too! But the problem is that when you have all the freq's involved (say, Hats at high ones, snare, melodies and all that stuff at middle ones) the attention to the bass is at 60 - 200 Hz, and the one below makes the mix muddy.
It can add on the atmosphere, yeah, but you need either very qualitat headphones or large loudspeakers.
The kick uses this freq's below 40Hz to att that phat punch, so it is good variant to release those for the kick only.
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13-01-2005 19:19 |
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Halph-Price
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most all cheap headphones limit is 20hz, so it's viable to keep them.
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13-01-2005 19:35 |
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Surora23
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very true...my headphones are technics and the freq response is something like 20hz- something..dun remember
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13-01-2005 19:56 |
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