drumnbass.be forum » Production » Software » Chopping up breaks Chopping up breaks Author Post Rha Member Registration Date: 16-02-2003 Posts: 53 I know most of us use recycle for this. U could also use Zs-Amen. But i came across a post by u Surya wherein u said "I use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 to chop".. How?? 26-04-2003 14:19 -J- Big Bad Battyman Registration Date: 15-11-2002 Posts: 1,043 Helpfulness rating:  open cooledit, open the wave file of your amen break and cut n paste away ... what's the point ? __ It's a spiritual thing ! 26-04-2003 15:08 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  Indeed that's the way. Copy each part of the break to a new file and save that seperately __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 26-04-2003 18:53 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  I think that's a better way to work than using recycle The best program for this is Protools I think - with Protools you can extend every slice at the beginning and end to fill up gaps you might have between slices... __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 26-04-2003 21:33 -J- Big Bad Battyman Registration Date: 15-11-2002 Posts: 1,043 Helpfulness rating:  Please check out my new track 'TENSION AND RELEASE' and post your comments here!!! If u like ya dnb deep and different please check this out. "imagination is more important than knowledge" Albert Einstein PEACE Matt iNSiGHt __ It's a spiritual thing ! 26-04-2003 22:05 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  You can get the full Pro Tools package for less than 1400 euro with the Digi001 package. I've had one and it's very good BTW the free version is excellent for cutting up loops. You can always export them as WAV files to use in your own soft. __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 27-04-2003 14:16 Rha Member Registration Date: 16-02-2003 Posts: 53 quote: open cooledit, open the wave file of your amen break and cut n paste away ... Well that sure was helpful...... (i don't know about you,but it's been a while since i was last wearing diapers ) quote: Copy each part of the break to a new file and save that seperately Hmz.. Using Reason, Rex-files don't need this kind of time/HD-wasting. (unless of course you want effects on separate slices..) quote: with Protools you can extend every slice at the beginning and end to fill up gaps you might have between slices... Recycle does this automatically (->stretch), but Protools method might be better indeed, i've got the paradox-release so i'll try&check it out. Thx for the fast replies guys, but i don't think u quite get what i was aiming at. I just wanna rearrange the breaks (quickly) without having to cut&paste manually, and slice up the breaks (al wavs actually) i have automatically (like in even measures, or triggered by loud plosives). quote: less than 1400 euro still a whole lot if y'axe me, me being a poor college student. I'll prolly have two wait a couple yrs before i can spend that kind of $ 27-04-2003 14:51 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  The trick with Protools is that it is not stretching (which degrades the sound quality) but every slice you take is a snapshot of the original loop which can be extended to the entire loop again by dragging the start and end points. The samples are not very disk space consuming btw, short samples only take up a couple of KB at the max. Quick and dirty automated tools like Recycle are a very fast way of working, but once you've tried out doing it manually you'll stick to it. It's just great how much control you have over it It's also very easy after a while, you just look at the sample waveform and you see where you have to make the cuts (a good trick is to cut a tiny bit before the hit, on a point where the waveform crosses the zero line). It doesn't take more than a few minutes to cut up a loop like this. Most of the good sequencers like Protools, Logic, Cubase offer a function where you can quantize samples directly in a track. You place all separate slices at the start of the track and then you just need to click on them and drag them to the place you want them while holding down the ctrl key, making an instant copy. Once you get the hang of this it is a very quick way of working. I've seen one of my mates in London who was making very complicated squarepusher-style breakz that never repeated doing this at incredible speed. If you are working with analog or step sequencer style programs it is even simpler - just assign all samples to a different part of the sequencer and trigger them where you want them to play. __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 27-04-2003 16:07 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by Rha quote: Copy each part of the break to a new file and save that seperately Hmz.. Using Reason, Rex-files don't need this kind of time/HD-wasting. (unless of course you want effects on separate slices..) All the small samples together would take up only a tiny bit more than the complete loop... __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 27-04-2003 17:36 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by -J- quote: Originally posted by thechronic I think that's a better way to work than using recycle The best program for this is Protools I think - with Protools you can extend every slice at the beginning and end to fill up gaps you might have between slices... pro tools is definately the best proggie to use for it ... altho it's very very very expensive (all hardware included it's about a 500.000 -- 1.000.000 BEF) you can download a free version of it (only 8 channels) at www.digidesign.com Cool, tnx for the link! I'll chech it out soon! __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 27-04-2003 17:39 Quinone Cool Tourist Registration Date: 20-04-2003 Posts: 36 Anyone aware of the thing I heard that there is a port released which makes Protools available for 2k/XP? Someone at my work told me so, and I would be most interested to learn if that is true. Couldn't find anything about it, but from what I've heard, Protools could do miracles for audio work. 27-04-2003 20:33 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  When you buy Digi001 you have to chose between 98SE/ME support or XP. W2000 is not mentioned anywhere on the site of Digidesign. The free version is for MacOS9 and W98SE/ME only... You can find a lot of info on their website and support forum __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 27-04-2003 21:09 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  Damn, and I'm planning to install XP in order to be able to run Cubase SX and PHP/Mysql properly Maybe they'll put an XP version of the FREE up soon? __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 27-04-2003 23:27 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  My PC has three partitions: W2000 for normal work, 98SE for music apps, ME for games (abandoned, haven't played games in months!!) With partition magic / partition chooser I can switch easily between them. Try something like that!! I wouldn't count on an XP version of the free version, it will eventually appear but that will take a long time considering the fact that they just released PT6 for TDM and need to port it to Digi001/Digi002... __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 27-04-2003 23:42 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  No, I've done things like that, and I ended up installing each proggie twice And why ME for games It doesn't provide any benefits over 98SE Most useless release of Windows EVER! __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 27-04-2003 23:49 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  Yeah I know When I installed that I only had W2000 and ME on CD-rom... __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 28-04-2003 00:15 -J- Big Bad Battyman Registration Date: 15-11-2002 Posts: 1,043 Helpfulness rating:  windows 2000 is still the best of all windows' out there it's stable, and with the necessary service packs it runs about anything ... __ It's a spiritual thing ! 28-04-2003 00:52 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by -J- windows 2000 is still the best of all windows' out there it's stable, and with the necessary service packs it runs about anything ... Yeah, I'm still not shure if I'm going for that one or XP... depends on what language the XP my friend has is... __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 28-04-2003 10:21 boognish Player Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 291 Helpfulness rating:  If you're gonna install XP and you want it to be a little configurable, install the professional edition. The home edition sucks ass big time when you don't want do to exactly what Bill had in mind for you 28-04-2003 13:10 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  I know, but there's some tricks to that too __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 28-04-2003 15:17 Pages (2): [1] 2 next » drumnbass.be forum » Production » Software » Chopping up breaks