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hello
i m thinking or purchasing a workstation groovebox thingie with my hard earned money from summer vacation, its not a lot so its not gone be a new one. so the choice is rather limited...
korg's emx 1
roland's mc 307
or yamaha's rm1x
if anyone could give me some advice about one of these models and what there limitations are, it would really help.
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thx
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06-12-2004 22:38 |
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dirk
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Don't by them at all , these things sound crappy. And you can't fix crappy sounds . Magic does not exist but most people believe in it . Don't fall into that trap !!!
Buy a real analoge synth like Roland MC202/SH101 , Juno 6/60 , Moog Prodigy , Micromoog , ect....These synths have character and keep there value so you don't waste any money .
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14-12-2004 11:51 |
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Surya 
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Is that something like an all in one hardware synth/sampler/sequencer? Nice to toy with, but useless if you're serious about producing! And yeah, the sound is crap.
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14-12-2004 12:00 |
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amperror
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I think those desktop boxes are as toy as protools is...it's just for creating music...and this new stuff have as much character as analog stuff...but indeed...don't use this stuff for producing tracks...it's good for LIVE use (cause of the knobs, mutebuttons, stability)
I've been using an RM1X for a long time, it has good sequencer facilities but most of the sounds sux (so I added a roland S-760 sampler). The KORG has a good virtual analog synth, but with serious limitations. Most rolands have a lot of good sounds but just a few edit possibilities...So if you buy such thing, notice that they all are limited and you have to expand them after a while, maybe it's intresting to save some more money for a sweet AKAI MPC 1000/2000 it's just sampling but it's a very good device to start with.......and if you don't go live, buy yourself an audiooptimisedcomputer... 
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14-12-2004 14:15 |
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spudleyq
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actually......the Roland MC 909 isn't too bad.......it's a lot more expensive than those ones......not as expensive as akai's MPC series though......i was playing with one up in guitar center and it sounded pretty good to me
Rolands new Fantom X-8 is fucking WICKED!!!! i was playing with that one too........
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14-12-2004 17:18 |
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amperror
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Originally posted by ultradark
i don't know why you need hardware workstation, groovebox, whatever, for live performance you can use laptop and ableton for example |
well, for me there are different reasons: °you don't have to watch the screen all the time (to search the cursor), and you have time to see signs of other musicians and see the audience dancing, °hardware sequencers don't crash, °they are more solid and so +/- beer and smoke proof, °they have solid buttons and knobs which can be musically twisted and punched °and some of the them look so sexy (especially the MPC 1000).........but i've nothing against laptop musicians, it's just a personal preference
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15-12-2004 19:12 |
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05-04-2005 23:58 |
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Halph-Price
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korg and yamaha are pretty much tied for a good.
korg has tube's you can see glow though. like a synth and drum machine in one.
Korg Review
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| In Song mode, you can connect as many as 256 patterns to create a full-fledged composition. A maximum of 64 songs can be stored on the EMX-1. You put together songs by deciding which pattern is to appear in what song position. |
Yamaha review
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| Song mode, where linear sequences can be recorded from start to finish, and edited with a variety of tools (though there are, surprisingly, no familiar operations such as cut and paste in this latter case). A linear Song can be chopped into patterns and, likewise, a pattern chain can be converted into a Song (which compensates somewhat for the lack of cut and paste facilities in Song mode). Work can be imported or exported as Standard MIDI Files, so you can easily move to a computer-based environment or take advantage of commercial MIDI song and building block files. |
Roland Review
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| The MC-307 Groovebox has a lot in common with its predecessors, the MC-303 and the MC-505, but the main difference is a Turntable Emulation control section that operates similarly to a turntable's pitch control. The MC-307 also provides easy access to, and instant control of, many live-performance features of interest to DJs and turntablists, such as the arpeggiator, real-time phrase sequencing (RPS), and effects. Although the MC-307 is as useful as its predecessors in a studio setting, it really flourishes in live-performance applications. |
these are cheaper than a new laptop and a version of albeton. which doesn't really do sound synthesis.
but you could use albeton WITh the groovebox.
that roland one is awsome, i tihnk i want that now instead of the 303.
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 06-04-2005 07:27.
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06-04-2005 07:23 |
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You could check out the Roland MC909
, but i think that's a bit too expensive, so you could check the 505, I have some expieriences with the 505 and its really an amazing machine.
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07-04-2005 12:56 |
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Friscko
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07-04-2005 22:45 |
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daze_DND
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My advice honestly....don't buy one!
crappy sounds ( roland have some decent sounds but there very cliche-sounds imo)and pretty lame fx's.
Really don't see the point in investing in a workstation...unless yr aim is to get a live gig going.....but then there are far better options then these imo( as mentioned above).
Invest in a good computer or upgrade your processer-power/soundcard if you already own a computer.All the features of the workstations can be done eazier and better with a good comp-setup.
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08-04-2005 09:46 |
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Surya
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Have to agree with Daze! The problem with those things is mainly: you get what it is, and nothing more. Despite all the specs, they're fairly limited...
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08-04-2005 09:56 |
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08-04-2005 19:58 |
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Surya
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So, I haven't had Reason crash on my yet
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08-04-2005 20:25 |
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Halph-Price
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ya, grooveboxes are, like the review i post said, mostly for dj's that do dance music.
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09-04-2005 06:02 |
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10-04-2005 00:45 |
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Halph-Price
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dnb is dance music.
live dance muisc, that you're preforming.
like quarepusher, or something. even then, you would use a mix board, more likely, even hooked up toa groove box, doubtful.
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