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what?!? you cant use vst plugins wif reason!... crazy!
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Halph-Price
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you can rewire it, and than use vst's elsewere
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what?!? you cant use vst plugins wif reason!... crazy! |
have you tried Reason?
not crazy at all, you wont need any of them, all you need is in there 
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wreakon
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all you need is in there
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Except for the things that are missing. Like a delay with a cutoff filter built in, or a HP filter. Or a stupid panning device, now you need a mixer for that... And having only 2 synths to choose from IS somewhat of a limitation!
PS, I use Reason myself 
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I get ya. its somewhat clear why they dont want to add vsts. to keep the rivalry with fruity?
but why oh why couldnt they allow mods for example? they did that with rebirth
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I get ya. its somewhat clear why they dont want to add vsts. to keep the rivalry with fruity?
but why oh why couldnt they allow mods for example? they did that with rebirth |
Rebirth was a liiiitle bit simpler than Reason though, and making a mod for four different racks, with only a couple different sounds......is a lot easier than making a mod for dozens of racks, with a ridiculous amount of sounds......that's my theory anyways.
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I get ya. its somewhat clear why they dont want to add vsts. to keep the rivalry with fruity?
but why oh why couldnt they allow mods for example? they did that with rebirth |
Rebirth was a liiiitle bit simpler than Reason though, and making a mod for four different racks, with only a couple different sounds......is a lot easier than making a mod for dozens of racks, with a ridiculous amount of sounds......that's my theory anyways. |
I didnt say what I wanted the way I wanted. its my english sorry.
unlike the mods in rebirth, but a possibility to make your own machines/addons etc. you know where Im gettin at, if not an editor, then some sort of a "developers kit"
wouldnt be vst, but still would expand the program infinitely
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I get ya. its somewhat clear why they dont want to add vsts. to keep the rivalry with fruity?
but why oh why couldnt they allow mods for example? they did that with rebirth |
Rebirth was a liiiitle bit simpler than Reason though, and making a mod for four different racks, with only a couple different sounds......is a lot easier than making a mod for dozens of racks, with a ridiculous amount of sounds......that's my theory anyways. |
I didnt say what I wanted the way I wanted. its my english sorry.
unlike the mods in rebirth, but a possibility to make your own machines/addons etc. you know where Im gettin at, if not an editor, then some sort of a "developers kit"
wouldnt be vst, but still would expand the program infinitely |
Ahh yes, I know what you mean now.
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i don't.
reason is a package of basic modules that you connect together, like with the new combinator, it has them all pre-made for you to use your new instrument.
you make maods by hooking them together. allt he basics of sound synthesis, and now sound control, are there. fm, subtraction, addition, sampling, vocoding... is there anything else?
do you need bajillion timbre sounds coming from every freq?
a virus plugin would be a cool rack.
there's always sampeling to fill thoes gaps you need.
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can i be the sample to fill your gap?
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what?!? you cant use vst plugins wif reason!... crazy! |
have you tried Reason?
not crazy at all, you wont need any of them, all you need is in there
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Look i use reason and it is good, but the sound is shite..this is why you should rewire.
and i never use the presets or the synths cause they sound shite to...
something thats designed to do lots of things will never be as good as something thats designed to do a specific job.like plug ins.
i only really use rex, redrum and the sample players....but all you need is definately not there, but its a great introduction to programming.
and lets face it, vst implementation would be wicked, but i cant see it happening.it would really screw up the fact that at the minute reason uses bugger all cpu.
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I agree with ya about the programing- introduction but personally think the future is with Reason. Not that Im convinced or blindly believing in it, maybe I'm dead wrong 
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I agree with ya about the programing- introduction but personally think the future is with Reason. Not that Im convinced or blindly believing in it, maybe I'm dead wrong
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i wouldnt say its the future, to be honest i think ableton live is making the biggest inroads,but whatever gets the job done wether its new or old is what counts, but ableton offers a bit more flexibility than most and is easy to use. gimme vsti and fx support, as well as decent quality audio and the ability to multitrack record and reason would destroy the competition, but like i said i cant see it as it the cpu usage would go through the roof.
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They probably have their reasons 
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Halph-Price
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I agree with ya about the programing- introduction but personally think the future is with Reason. Not that Im convinced or blindly believing in it, maybe I'm dead wrong
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i wouldnt say its the future, to be honest i think ableton live is making the biggest inroads,but whatever gets the job done wether its new or old is what counts, but ableton offers a bit more flexibility than most and is easy to use. gimme vsti and fx support, as well as decent quality audio and the ability to multitrack record and reason would destroy the competition, but like i said i cant see it as it the cpu usage would go through the roof. |
again, Albeton does not do any sound synthesist, which is what Reason is Emulating, Analong Synthesis!
not some DO IT ALL mix station.
just do all synth's all.
that;s why they have the rewire protocal.
the sequencing it's emulating in reason is that matrix thing. the ohter sequencer is for midi support, use your keyboard to use reason.
it's not a high class production SUITE, it's just analog modelling!!!!! it's like a BIG COMPLEX VST! what don't ya get? it's so complex that they have a diverse protocal for it, ReWire!!!
seeeee.
think of it as one of the best vst's you can get for your money.
better than Vanguard, THERE I SAID IT! i know it's harsh, but it's out there,now.... better than vanguard...
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cynik
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the reason why propellerheads won't make reason to support vst is because that would mean the death of reason.
reason is fancy eye candy app, nice graphics and you can even turn the rack around and see the cables and move them and you feel like you are in the real studio, that's why so many people like reason.
but the sequencer is small and not so easy to work with, why would somebody want to sequence in reason using vst's when there is cubase and it's the same way or working only bigger and easier? that's why reason never will support vst. |
I don't follow this way of thinking. So you're saying, that although it doesn't support the so popular VSTs, and although it has a crappy sequencer, people use is becouse it doesn't support VSTs? Or did I get you wrong?
Anyway, what I heard whas that they don't support VSTs coz they see Reason as 1 complete package, that doesn't need add-ons and plugins.
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