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The first concrete details of next major update to Propellerheads Reason software have been revealed.
And the word is that version 3 will contain several new features designed with live performance in mind. For example, the new Combinator module (pictured below) allows users to consruct chains of Reason instrument, effects and sequencer modules and save them as a combi patch. Users can thereby recall complex setups instantly.

Propellerhead have for a long time been resisting requests from many users to incorporate audio recording, third-party plug-in hosting and other DAW-type features into Reason, and theres no change to their stance in version 3. Indeed, Propellerhead make it clear that they see Reason as the software alternative to a hardware workstation synth, with the same capabilities for composing, production and now live performance too.
Another new module is MClass, a mastering suite featuring a four-band parametric and shelving EQ, a compressor/maximiser and a look-ahead limiter.
Other new features in version 3 that have been confirmed so far include a new, expanded soundbank, with more multisampled instruments and a range of combi patches, a new browser featuring text searches, Favourites folders and audition play of all samples and patches via MIDI, and out-of-the-box integration with most major control surfaces, including support for motorised faders and controller displays.
We expect many more details of the new version to be revealed before Reason v3 becomes available in early 2005.


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Big thing bothering me: STILL NO FUCKING VST SUPPORT Censored

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i'm looking forward ... Smile ) but that vts support would be good thing, it's a pity

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The first concrete details of next major update to Propellerheads Reason software have been revealed.
And the word is that version 3 will contain several new features designed with live performance in mind. For example, the new Combinator module (pictured below) allows users to consruct chains of Reason instrument, effects and sequencer modules and save them as a combi patch. Users can thereby recall complex setups instantly.
Propellerhead have for a long time been resisting requests from many users to incorporate audio recording, third-party plug-in hosting and other DAW-type features into Reason, and theres no change to their stance in version 3. Indeed, Propellerhead make it clear that they see Reason as the software alternative to a hardware workstation synth, with the same capabilities for composing, production and now live performance too.
Another new module is MClass, a mastering suite featuring a four-band parametric and shelving EQ, a compressor/maximiser and a look-ahead limiter.
Other new features in version 3 that have been confirmed so far include a new, expanded soundbank, with more multisampled instruments and a range of combi patches, a new browser featuring text searches, Favourites folders and audition play of all samples and patches via MIDI, and out-of-the-box integration with most major control surfaces, including support for motorised faders and controller displays.
We expect many more details of the new version to be revealed before Reason v3 becomes available in early 2005.


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vst/vsti support i a wet dream here aswell
but if we believe the headz, it'll never be implented

they don't see reason as a final product.
rewire is still will be. (though it has it's tricks :s)


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More detailed info from the official site
The Combinator: http://www.propellerheads.se//products/r...ason3combinator
Mastering Class Suite: http://www.propellerheads.se//products/r...e=reason3mclass

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The mastering suite looks like the thing we've all been waiting for. But I've listened to the demo they made with it and, guess what... it's overcompressed Big Grin

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im confused its gonna have a mastering suite but they say they arent implementing the importing of wavs or vst support because they see reason as software alternative to a synth workstation? kind of ass backwards, seems to me they are just avoiding payin the buck to stienberg and at the same time holding on to their corporate money maker by only allowing reason refills for importing. this is the "reason" i wont even touch the damn thing. one thing i dont need while producing is a program pissin me off.
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You can import wavs, no problem. It's RECORDING that they don't want to implement. And I don't see why they see VST support as not fitting in their vision of Reason either. Now they got like 2 synths, while when you have VST's, you can have hundreds of different synths. I don't see why they think that wouldn't be good for Reason???

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if they did that. they would have to pay stienberg for the vst support. its all bizness. cheap bastards.
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you greedy bastards!!!! Big Grin need to have your cake and eat it too i suppose?! Are VST's and VSTi's really that important? I barely ever use them......and with all that Reason 3.0 is going to offer......who the fuck needs em?

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I do

I don't get it. There's even VST support in so many free programs like Buzz, why would it be a problem for Propellerheads? Sucks!

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i guess reason is just trying to be a cut above the rest.......showing that you don't need to rely on VST's to make killer music apps.....most other programs rely on VST's to make it better......reason comes stocked with all you need (pretty much).......your VST's don't make a good track......you make a good track.....if you had a hardware setup........you wouldn't need VST's.....but you would need lots and lots of money......reason puts it all in front of ya for much cheaper......much much cheaper......i honestly don't see the big deal with reason not supporting VST's.......if you need to have your VST's......then don't use reason.......it really is that simple........but if you hate reason because you want to use it so badly.......but also need your VST's......then i guess there's nothing you can do about that.......aside from becoming the lead tech designer for propellerheads and incorporate it next time around!!!! Big Grin Big Grin

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Well, it's all about DIVERSITY. Reason doesn't have it. VST's do offer it. No, VST's don't make your tracks better, but they give you more possabilities of more different sounds, which is NEVER a bad thing.

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with all the crazy shit you can do on reason.......i don't think diversity is a problem.......they have all the basic effects covered don't they? and if they don't.......they supply the means to make them yourself don't they? like a high pass filter.......i don't have a high pass filter hooked up to my turntables.....but with an EQ I can make one.......a dynamic one even...........i don't have a flanger but if i play the same two records and speed up or slow one down I get the same effect.......i actually haven't used reason yet....(still working on getting my own computer).....but i would imagine it has basically all you would need to cover any sort of electronic genre appropriately.......i really don't see any problems with not supporting Virtual Studio Technology.


do you know if it supports DirectX effects?

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Reason is a stand-alone application, in the true sense of the word, so no DX-effects either.
But i think there's no real problem (when it comes to stand-alone and/or VST-supportive), REWIRE takes care of most of those issues, imo.

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But i think there's no real problem (when it comes to stand-alone and/or VST-supportive), REWIRE takes care of most of those issues, imo.


I agree...i rewire all the time. although it's quite powerhungry(hope that gets better too with version 3, although i doubt it)it works for me.

Those new version 3 devices look tha shiznit...can't wait to test them!

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when rewire runs slow

try to find a perfect balance between your host and rewire program's buffer settings.

i found out, things runs a bit more fluent then.

high ram / processor values also improves this.

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