drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » janverstichel - dark prison janverstichel - dark prison Author Post janverstichel Cool Producer Registration Date: 10-11-2004 Posts: 189 Helpfulness rating:  Please check out my new track 'dark prison' and post your comments here!!! i want to hear youre opingnon on the atmosphere dm __ 25-11-2004 19:12 Glim Stuck In The Late Nineties Registration Date: 16-10-2004 Posts: 1,848 Helpfulness rating:  eerie atmospherics, the beat i do like nice rough edge to it heavy 'ol kick drum goin on maybe take it up a note or 2 imho!! i like the sort've 4-note lead thing that comes in at 2:01, likle to hear you expand on that as i know you can going by previous tracks. did you say u were still making it keep waitin for a heavy bassline to come in as the one running is made round a 'one-hit' style i like to hear moanin groanin continuos bass right at the drop, but thats jus me sort've a roni size - 'snapshot' feel about it looking forward to hearin more from ya Laterz G __ My Sounds 25-11-2004 19:29 kareem Cool Producer Registration Date: 10-11-2004 Posts: 146 Helpfulness rating:  Impressive intro. Alot going on in the song, nice beats. Needs some variation in the tunes once and a while to give it more edge. Like what happens on 4min58. The title fits the song perfectly Nice dark atmoshperic song. 4/5 25-11-2004 20:32 saphir Wicked Producer Registration Date: 15-11-2002 Posts: 299 Helpfulness rating:  good tune but i think i can use a more driven bassline it's kinda static now. intro reminds me of deathmarch, a tune of mine, just cuz of the samples. but you take it to another vibe sounds is nice, but i think the stab you use in the beginning can get a rubover, maybe something more fluent in constract of the static vibe? maybe some more variations and some breakcuts? duno __ http://soundcloud.com/saphir_gazmazk www.nitras.be 25-11-2004 21:56 janverstichel Cool Producer Registration Date: 10-11-2004 Posts: 189 Helpfulness rating:  jeah i know it hasn't mutch variation specialy in the beat __ 25-11-2004 22:01 marine289 Wicked Producer Registration Date: 05-10-2004 Posts: 311 Helpfulness rating:  I was pretty surprised when I heard this, this is by far your best track (at least, from what i've heard). The track has good atmospohere. The bassline is allright, could use some more variation... Is may be a bit too simple, but sometimes simple is better then complex. The thing I feel really negative about is the beat. It is exactly the same as the .flp I send you. The samples are the same, the beat is the same (well a tiny bit diffirent, but not much). This might not be a problem for some other people, but well I feel like this is just stealing somebody's stuff. At least when you just use it the way he used it, when you do not slice it up and give it some of yourself. Well I just dont feel right about that. And you are right when you said you heard the Roni Size feel, Glimmer. I recognize this very much. Track is allright, only the sample that you use to create the atmosphere is a bit too much used. It might be better to play it a little louder and to add a huge echo/delay, and then play the sample every once in a while. It's just a bit too much used now. (but that's what I think, you should know for yourself) Overall a pretty decent track, you made good progress. Too bad about the beats. 2.5/5 25-11-2004 22:44 Surora23 Agressive Melodic Disorder Registration Date: 05-07-2004 Posts: 2,127 Helpfulness rating:  nice breaks in that first intro...not liking that acoustin snare though after the ghost snares are out...very techy sound effects come in...very nice...i like that...very usual suspects ( MY KIND OF DNB) not really feeling that bassline...or sound effects...the intro was good but this first drop im not feeling...a cool hit comes in there...after that the track gets really boring...not feelin this anymore...the rest just kind of fallows this pattern... the mixdown and production is very nice...4/5 but the structure and actual song isnt that good... 2/5 keep it up... __ Rinse it OUT!!!! 26-11-2004 00:13 janverstichel Cool Producer Registration Date: 10-11-2004 Posts: 189 Helpfulness rating:  I take the samples from the flp because i liked them and i changed the beat but you are wright when you say that the ghostsnares are the same i know that and i used them because i have trouble with making ghostsnares dm thx for the reviews __ 26-11-2004 18:25 marine289 Wicked Producer Registration Date: 05-10-2004 Posts: 311 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by janverstichel I take the samples from the flp because i liked them and i changed the beat but you are wright when you say that the ghostsnares are the same i know that and i used them because i have trouble with making ghostsnares dm thx for the reviews Sorry to be this angry, I didnt mean it that way. And at the time I was writing that, I was having a bad time, so I'm sorry. I was having difficulties with the ghostsnares too, but you just got to listen very good, and then when you think it sounds right, you got it. You just have to do it a couple of times, with diffirent beats and you 'll learn soon. 26-11-2004 19:22 Soi Super Moderator Registration Date: 29-01-2003 Posts: 1,417 Helpfulness rating:  Kick sounds nice Atmo's are cool. Like when the atmo's of the beginning, Reason's ethnic horn and that Roni Size-bass are isolated, which makes it a good breakdown. But when the drums drop again, i miss something, they can use some extra ghosts or whatever that makes it slightly more rollin, and some extra variation could spicen up the whole. But as an answer on your original question: the atmo's are cool enough. __ a myspace my tunes "I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get." 26-11-2004 19:41 T.O.R. Cool Tourist Registration Date: 17-11-2004 Posts: 26 Helpfulness rating:  Damn, i really really like this one. 5 is 2 much but here izza 4,5/5 Piez bro En euh, lekkerrrr vettuuuug 28-11-2004 16:45 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  Nice dark intro. Kick is very heavy. So heavy it might interfeer with the bassline later on I guess... Sounds nice on it's own though. Ghosts are well done too. Ah, Snapshot bassline. Not much bass in thatone. That's why it works with the bassline. Melody is simple, but I think it will be boring quite soon. Anyway, I think it lacks bass and sub. New sound @ 3.40 doesn't really fit the track imo. The track has a good basis, but it's too much of the same the whole time, and the synth doesn't fit. 2.25/5 for the track 2/5 for the levels __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 28-11-2004 17:13 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » janverstichel - dark prison