the sad truth about DnB

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the sad truth about DnB

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Mix_Man_Dan Mix_Man_Dan is a male

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im sorry to say this but its true,
DnB doesnt seem as popular as it should be.
there are alot of people in the world who dont even
know what DnB is, i show them a song and i say
"its DnB", and they say "whats DnB", so i say
"its like break dance music, complex drummin"

anyways i wonder why it isnt very popular....
i cant remember ever seeing a DnB track getting
to the top of any MTV or MuchMusic charts....
ididnt know what DnB was antil about a year ago
either... infact ive only been making this for a few
months, but i like it more then any other genre!
i usedo make Hard Rock and rave but now i just
feel more for DnB.

my brother james doesnt like DnB much at all,
but he loves rock the most.
to me rock seems weak compared to DnB,
i feel alot more exitement from DnB then Rock,
rock seems slowcompared to it....
maybe i should make a fast paced hard rock
album with complex heavy poudning breakz,
ambience style effects/textures, and techno/
rave style synth work all in one packidge.

....not a bad idea Smile

but thats for later, right now i gotta finish up on
my techno and DnB albums.

anyone here know why DnB isnt popular enough?

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Wow, i was feeling pritty bad there 10/18/2004, but when a person is under an emotional extream error is sure to soon fallow.

30-09-2004 18:54

muphasta muphasta is a male

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but then again they who tryed to commercialize became big mistakes of the kind.
For example Kosheen, Appolo 440, jungle brothers, those guys from that 'freestyler"-tune!!!

beware beware for pushed productions Huh

cheers

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30-09-2004 19:09

dj eskay dj eskay is a male

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not longer populair ?

Very good news Cool

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30-09-2004 21:22

KoFFiE KoFFiE is a male

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I like it like it is right now... I've said it before, and I'll say it again, becoming popular destroys a style. Right now it's the talent that speaks, not the money. Once it grows larger, the money starts talking, and it'll attract a party-public you don't wanna have...

The moment DnB becomes too popular, I'll look for something new I guess. Did it before with trance/house and lateron techno, and I will do it again. I can't remember a single real techno-track on MTV or anything, but yet it is very popular and commercialized here in Belgium, especially the parties, and that sucks big time, so showing a clip on MTV doesn't mean anything. MTV sometimes airs Aphex Twin tracks, and are those commercial/popular? Most of the people I know didn't know them until I showed them what it was, and a lot of them don't like it.

Why DnB is so unknown? Well it's still for a large part underground in most parts of the world, and that's the whole point. Right now you have a very nice & friendly public going to small cosy and fun parties, and a lot of faces keep returning. In the UK it seems that it has changed/is changing there in a more and more commercially exploited style. There's no-one at the moment that really pushes this in Belgium (can't speak for the rest of the world), Kozzmozz has Starwarz, ok, but that's still relatively small if you compare it to the tens of thousands people coming to I love techno.

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30-09-2004 22:07

Surya

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Agree with KoFFiE too the fullest: we don't want DnB to be popular with the big public!!!!

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30-09-2004 22:30

Dave_Akuma Dave_Akuma is a male

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it would be really really sad if dnb ended up like hip hop...the way i see it, dnb isn't meant to be really popular-- imo it' s not really something that you can 'pretend' to like just to fit in, the way hip hop's become...or any other commercial, mass media bullshit...i'd rather have a steady army of dedicated dnb heads who truly appreciate it than to have millions of 'wannabe' dnb heads who are in it just for an image or something (again, like hip hop)...

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30-09-2004 23:09

Mix_Man_Dan Mix_Man_Dan is a male

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i dont think that DnB will ever stop bing underground because of the nature of public taste.
most people dont apreshiate the drums in a song, thats just the way it is, and DnB has alot of focus on the beat.

and i think it sucks what heppened to techno and it
REALY REALY! sucks what happened to dance music.
pure shit usualy....
but my techno that i make doesnt fit in to any the
main stream mold, its not always 4/4 kick drum and
all watered down with progressive piss.
i still think that the digital origin and concept of
techno renders it the world's most superior genre
but do to the fact that it is easy to make, and easy
to get half assed with, it had been abused and
destroyed almost completely!

my latest theory in progress is this:
~omni genre fusion~
take the best of each genre and combine it all into
one song! dont use every genre there is in each song
but take more then two atleast.
example:
dark base line, gospel trance style synths and quiors,
ambience effects, a complex and intuitive DnB style
main beat, and the classic funkey style claps and
bongos of techno all mixed into one song.
this is just one example, but im going to be getting
edirol orchistra soon if things work out right.
and after that there will be some big changes!

it requires inlightenment and skill to make omni gerne
fusion, but the reasults are always fresh and great!

im planning on making somthing like this in the future,
a whole album called "DJ Experiments"
but thats just a plan so far, and well see what
happens...
who else here uses multiple genres at once on a
regular basis ?

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01-10-2004 06:32

Surya

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I rarely use more than two genres and one of them is always very present: dark DnB Big Grin

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01-10-2004 10:48

muphasta muphasta is a male

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I think its essentialYou use more genres than strickly this or that. in the first place how dis DnB become like it is today? by other genres. Iff you stay to much in one style you get shortend because you cant build yourself musically enough on one matter. you need to allow, and even if you dont want to it always happens, other influences to eventually become that one harmony that reprasents yourself. some take a life-time to find it, others six months. Many great music incleeds mixtures of style and mixtures of musicians of different styles.
Follow the Force!!!

cheers Rasta

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01-10-2004 14:48

infazz infazz is a male

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If drum and bass gose popular! it will be not dnb !! it will be POP !!

and I dont want that! )

Drum and bass is a chasm of perfection !!!!!!

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02-10-2004 01:28

ripon

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DnB will never be popular over here in the United States, because everyone over here wants lyrics in their songs.

I constantly hear that DnB and "techno" (the generic term everyone over here uses for any sort of electronic music) are too repetitive, and that they are boring. For me, its the exact opposite. DnB is the most exciting form of music that I know of, and when I turn on the radio here Im bored to death by the shit that they play here.

Over here, unless there is some whiny guy with a goatee bellowing into a microphone about some girl, or some retarted rapper like Puff Daddy rapping half assed about how much money he makes, people dont care about it. Mad

Its super irritating. Which is why I enjoyed living in Belgium, and why I enjoyed Germany when I lived there; people are much more open minded when it comes to music, not so influenced by trends, like everyone over here is.

02-10-2004 07:02

Surya

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Ripon is right: unless producers start using lyrics and adopt the popsong stucture with verses and choruses, DnB won't be popular. And a change in sound (less agressive drums, less agressive basslines...) will be obligatory too... and then you come to a style that I would't really call DnB, but more like DnB influenced popmusic... Check all popular DnB tracks (Kosheen, Shy F Doped

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Originally posted by ripon
Which is why I enjoyed living in Belgium, and why I enjoyed Germany when I lived there; people are much more open minded when it comes to music, not so influenced by trends, like everyone over here is.

Come back soon man Wink

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02-10-2004 07:47

ripon

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Looking forward to it Bigup

02-10-2004 07:50

saphir saphir is a male

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i don't wanna see sell out on dnb. but it has allready happend. lots of intressest is gone.

the repitive wave of succesformula.

i think there are other sad things about drum 'n bass than it's popularity.

but i don't complain, i filter Pleased

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02-10-2004 10:47

Buckwheat Buckwheat is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by infazz
[b]If drum and bass gose popular! it will be not dnb !! it will be POP Shocked

fully second that Bigup

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03-10-2004 16:46

Buckwheat Buckwheat is a male

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how the drum and bass scene is working now is just fine, big venues but also small ones!

drum and bass is underground and that is and i hope will always be it's biggest charme Cool

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03-10-2004 16:48

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quote:

Originally posted by Buckwheat

drum and bass is underground and that is and i hope will always be it's biggest charme Cool

I agree with you on that for some part, but I also think I would be listening to DnB if it were commercial. I doubt if I'd listen to the stuff on MTV, but when it's good i think I would.
But nowadays, most people in my class (most of them are around 17-19 ), they dont even know drum n bass. When DnB goes commercial, I will at least be able to talk to people about it. well, i am now, but not as much as if it would go commercial. Pleased

But Buckwheat has a good point too. Bigup

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07-10-2004 19:53

muphasta muphasta is a male

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If you get promoted like hell, i doesnt matter what kind of music you make.
the masses will eat what is presented to them!!!!!!

cheers

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08-10-2004 10:56

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MENG!!!! F*ck the sad truth about DNB! There is no sad truth. This style will never die. It's always been a fusion of different styles of music since it was born.
That's what truly makes this style futuristic. How much has drum + bass changed in the last year even? I am constantly reminded about 19 times a day why i am a junglist soldier. From Darkcore 2 Jump up and even funky likwid darkstep, i'll always love this sh*t as long as it keeps the beats + the bass + continues 2 evolve like it has so much. In my opinion jungle/drum + bass is THE superior style. This sh*t will never go commercial. Love ya all, let the bass kick, help me!

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08-10-2004 16:57

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Half the appeal of DnB is that it is not popular. This is good for many reasons eg weak tracks and remixes released for commercial (profit) purposes only.

Because it is more underground the followers are mor hard core and appreciate a lot more rather than some halved arsed idiot that cant think for them selves a goes with what the media force feeds them.

I've been following the scene, and being a part of it, over here in the UK since before 'Drum and Bass' waqs being made. It does go in circles and it is alll swing and round a bouts..sometimes you have to take it with a pinch of salt Wink

I suppose when you have something good you dont wont to share it incase it gets spoilt. Its like when your a kid and you get a new toy and you dont wont to share it with your mates Wink

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08-10-2004 17:22

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