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tommy87 tommy87 is a male
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Please check out my new track 'waitin round for dealers' and post your comments here!!!

Hey, my first one :D lemme know what im doing wrong or what coulda been better.

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19-08-2004 15:35
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Seems a bit slow, not sure...

Breakbeat isn't bad, but quite primitive and basic. Shakers are a bit loud. Try adding some ghosts and hihats...

Melodies are strange and out of key with eachother.

Hoover stuf: nice, much better than the previous part.

The pitching up bassline is too loud...

Ah, vocals, expected some with a track by you, although I though you would have whole lyrics... Nice though, you don't have too change it Big Grin

Breaks here are much better but still too loud shakers, and add some nice rolling ghosts again Wink

Good start, but plenty of practicing needed...

2/5

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19-08-2004 15:43 Homepage of Surya
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Seems a bit slow, not sure...

Breakbeat isn't bad, but quite primitive and basic. Shakers are a bit loud. Try adding some ghosts and hihats...



Woah! I expected to get flamed badly. I think its slow too - i want that drop after the inhalation to b fucking insane... no ideas how to get there tho.

Ghosts? Shakers? I used all samples on audio channels in logic to make this, I arranged them to make breaks... is this how ur supposed to do things. I've tried mapping in exs24... kinda gay finished sound. Can't manipulate individual hits enough.

Do u use reason to build ur breaks? Is it worth me gettin this?

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Melodies are strange and out of key with eachother.


I got a C in music, played in a band 4 nearly 3 years and still don't know shite about music. feed my brain - gimme sum 'effin links.

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Hoover stuf: nice, much better than the previous part.

The pitching up bassline is too loud...

Ah, vocals, expected some with a track by you, although I though you would have whole lyrics... Nice though, you don't have too change it Big Grin

Breaks here are much better but still too loud shakers, and add some nice rolling ghosts again Wink

Good start, but plenty of practicing needed...

2/5


I always figerd hoover stuff was like what bc used on planet dust and dillinja's grimey.... I guess i'm wrong. Explain Im dumb.

How can I sort the pitching up and down of the bassline to sound bettah?

Respect! Nice 2 know someone knows im an mc. I wanna do a long chours like spit at the begging "I've got 2 cuts, 2 cuts on my rizla, I'd like a zig-zag cos they stick bettah, why am i always waiting / round dealers, fuckin dealers time, money on my mind"

How can i ensure the quality of the recording is good (im using a fucking mic tht came wiv my pc) and that i dont get pops... i know using a pop stand is the obvious... any budget ways....?

Thanks huge m8! EZ!
19-08-2004 15:54
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i want that drop after the inhalation to b fucking insane... no ideas how to get there tho.

Well, having agressive drums that roll and are beating do the track mostly. Getting this is just a matter of a lot of practicing on making breakbeats. Takes a couple of months AT LEAST to master this a bit.

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Ghosts? Shakers?

Ghosts are shorter quiteter hits than the main hits that are placed in between. They are the onces that make a breakbeat roll and give it its depth. Doing good ghosts (mostly done with snares) is hard though.
The shakers are the hi thinges you used.

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I used all samples on audio channels in logic to make this, I arranged them to make breaks... is this how ur supposed to do things.

Sure, what program you use doesn't really matter, logic should be very good. It's just a matter of taste which program you like best... I use Buzz, most people don't like it...

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Do u use reason to build ur breaks? Is it worth me gettin this?

No, I don't use Reason and no, if you're comfetable in Logic, there is no reason to switch, the one isn't better than the other, they're just different. You could try it out some time and switch if you like it better, but don't go buying it right away...

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I got a C in music, played in a band 4 nearly 3 years and still don't know shite about music. feed my brain - gimme sum 'effin links.[quote]
Lol, I know shit about music either, but I know when it sounds right or wrong... You'll have to refer to someone else than me for an explenation though...

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I always figerd hoover stuff was like what bc used on planet dust and dillinja's grimey.... I guess i'm wrong. Explain Im dumb.

There is a difference between not knowing something and being dumb (=not knowing even after you've been told)... No, the sounds you're referring too are reeces... They do sound a bit familiar, but reeces are more fit for basslines, often sound rougher and more agressive and are distorted, whereas hoovers are higher pitched and less agressive...

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How can I sort the pitching up and down of the bassline to sound bettah?

Yeah, just turn down the volume of it a bit Big Grin

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Respect! Nice 2 know someone knows im an mc. I wanna do a long chours like spit at the begging "I've got 2 cuts, 2 cuts on my rizla, I'd like a zig-zag cos they stick bettah, why am i always waiting / round dealers, fuckin dealers time, money on my mind"

How can i ensure the quality of the recording is good (im using a fucking mic tht came wiv my pc) and that i dont get pops... i know using a pop stand is the obvious... any budget ways....?

Erm, no I haven't done any good sounding mic recordings yet, my mic is probably worse than yours Big Grin

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19-08-2004 16:09 Homepage of Surya
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Evil reeces r breaks init? I read an article on dogsonacid that said u need cool edit to make gr8 sounding hoovers, tonnes of distortion involved...
19-08-2004 16:32
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Reeces are basslines with lots of distortion on it, not breaks

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19-08-2004 16:34 Homepage of Surya
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So did this have something do wiv alex reece? Surya u gotta know some sites for tutorials or resources?
19-08-2004 16:46
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No, I don't really have them... I learn most stuff by my own...

And yeah it has to do smth with Alex Reece Big Grin

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19-08-2004 16:50 Homepage of Surya
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Good work. dont really like the effect on the vocal at the start tho. like the noises youre using. Keep em comin.
Big respect to all the massive Bigup
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it's quite slow, but it doesn't matter, that piano like melody is really out of key, basslines are good, but one is quite overbassed - i think, great effects
And about production side of the track, you could work more ...

it's not my style, but i'd give it 3/5

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That must be the weirdest tune i ever heard!! Tongue
after the 2:00 break the hard stuff enters. But it's got a huge electrofeel to it.
You did a funny but interesting job, though. Bigup

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