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Hey peeps.

So I am fuckin around with Massive, I can get a pretty decent sound, but it sounds kind of muffled together with the rest of my stuff.

Here is a clip: http://jeffijoe.com/muffledbass.mp3

And here is what I am trying to achieve (the wholeness): http://youtu.be/Tj11bEDeZxk?hd=1&t=48s

I tried EQ'ing around, didnt bring me much love.

P.S: I do agree the bass kinda sucks at the moment.. Maybe I should just drop it?

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15-06-2011 16:58 Homepage of jeffijoe
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Not sure what processing you're using but I think you need less distortion from the start. Keep reigning in the distortion with filter movement- the bandpass filter in Camelphat works well because you can individually adjust the high and low cut. Split the bass channel into 3 layers, sub/mids/highs etc and distort and process each one differently. If you get tearing accents in the highs, it will sound much clearer. Keep the lows less distorted.

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15-06-2011 21:42 Homepage of Phalanx
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Did you split your bass in sub and mid?

Don't do distortion on the sub, keep it clean and mono.

Use a different bass preset, it seems like you have some detuned square bass. The video has a saw bass.

Muffled sound in general (this one isn't really muffled) can be fixed by lowering the 250-800Hz range in an EQ on the mixerchannel that contains your muffy sound.
(set it to 575Hz and let it dip so you are in the middle of the range).

Your mids are WAY too loud and the filtert is too nervous, lower the speed of movement and the range of movement. Neuro bass has more to it than a wobble, you'll need to do some wicked automation to get an organic feel to the bass.

Just leave out all decoration and focus on drums and bass for now.

I'm pretty sure that the Ovey tune uses a Massive preset as well.

Your drums sound pretty regular and tame compared to the bass btw.

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15-06-2011 23:16 Homepage of BattleDrone
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Did you split your bass in sub and mid?

Don't do distortion on the sub, keep it clean and mono.

Use a different bass preset, it seems like you have some detuned square bass. The video has a saw bass.

Muffled sound in general (this one isn't really muffled) can be fixed by lowering the 250-800Hz range in an EQ on the mixerchannel that contains your muffy sound.
(set it to 575Hz and let it dip so you are in the middle of the range).

Your mids are WAY too loud and the filtert is too nervous, lower the speed of movement and the range of movement. Neuro bass has more to it than a wobble, you'll need to do some wicked automation to get an organic feel to the bass.

Just leave out all decoration and focus on drums and bass for now.

I'm pretty sure that the Ovey tune uses a Massive preset as well.

Your drums sound pretty regular and tame compared to the bass btw.


Ovey is in fact helping me out - hell, I have his Massive presets!

I am using the same wavetable as him, same filters too. Obviously I dont wanna completely copy him.

I know the drums are too plain - just needed something in there.

EDIT: Fuck, no matter what I do, it just wont sound friggin right...

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16-06-2011 11:21 Homepage of jeffijoe
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Rome wasn't built in a day.
Get a grip... work your ass off, take a break every once in a while. I'm in this game too long to get upset but I still have my moments where I think that I can't do it.

If you sit at your daw and you feel like "it isn't happening" then do something else.
Suggestions:
- Go sample hunting
- Vote for tunes on here
- Read stuff about production
- Try out some new vst's (without actually working on a tune)
- Sort your sample collection
- Get your PC in shape
- Go out and have a glass

Frustration will create pressure and writers' block. You don't want those because they don't deliver choons.

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go back to the beginning, there is clearly too much low and mid on the bass before you distorted it which is whats giving it that muffled mid range. delete your effects chain and start again.

do some of the effects outside of massive so you can cut the EQ before distorting it.

the neuro bass im working on at the moment runs through effects in this order

.high pass to cut off <150 Hz
.Distortion
.High Pass to cut off <100Hz
.Equiliser to shape the sound, cut out unwanted frequencies etc...
.Various automated filters

sometimes distorting the high end twice can work quite well but not if you do it too harshly

there are some good tutorials already on this forum for tearing or twisting neuro basses linked here: FAQ / Knowledge Base (lots of links to production related information)

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16-06-2011 22:05 Homepage of timmehhurts
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