drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » Low cutting eating up my head room. Low cutting eating up my head room. Author Post padders Tourist Registration Date: 01-03-2009 Posts: 16 Why is it that when I low cut my tracks,say drums rather than decreasing the gain it increases the gain. This seems counter intuative as you would think removing frequencies would decrease the gain. I'm using logic by way and the eq's that come with it. I found the same thing in Fl studio as well. Is it something to do with resonance of the eq that is causing a boost somewhere along the way? Any eq's that dont have this effect? 20-03-2011 19:21 Phalanx Chronologic Registration Date: 13-09-2007 Posts: 333 Helpfulness rating:  I've had similar problems using the Waves REQ- whenever I do a cut, the gain goes up by 2 dB or so. __ http://soundcloud.com/chronologic 20-03-2011 22:25 padders Tourist Registration Date: 01-03-2009 Posts: 16 Cheers nice to know its not just me. But can anyone expain this as I don't understand it. 21-03-2011 22:10 BattleDrone 2161... the future. Registration Date: 30-12-2005 Posts: 6,413 Helpfulness rating:  Are you making a really steep EQ curve? If yes, that isn't very good because for some reason you introduce new frequencies (Chron can explain this as he is a trained audio engineer). Maybe it's better to: - use a soft curve - use a different tool - use a simple hi-pass filter It's also possible that you are filtering out a ton of rumble and that the free space is used by a master compressor to push up all the rest. __ Check my soundcloud (exclusive tracks on there) 22-03-2011 08:57 Impact Wicked Producer Registration Date: 29-08-2010 Posts: 439 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by BattleDrone It's also possible that you are filtering out a ton of rumble and that the free space is used by a master compressor to push up all the rest. This. imo. __ Quality DNB clothing Co founder of Instinct Audio ImpactMastering: Affordable Digital Mastering/Mixing service 22-03-2011 09:30 padders Tourist Registration Date: 01-03-2009 Posts: 16 ok cheers, i have been using logic channel eq with a steep curve. Using a less harsh slope however doesn't remove all those low frequencies. I thought that a filters tend to have quite a steep curve as well. I have tried using logic low pass eq and doesn't seem to has much of an effect but still increases the gain a little. This happens without any compressor on the master channel. Why do they add frequencies? is it due to resonance? What eq to do you use? Tar 22-03-2011 19:11 BattleDrone 2161... the future. Registration Date: 30-12-2005 Posts: 6,413 Helpfulness rating:  I use IL Maximus on the master as it has a good and easy way to hi pass the master bus without messing up the sound. __ Check my soundcloud (exclusive tracks on there) 22-03-2011 21:17 Gregg Wicked Producer Registration Date: 16-05-2007 Posts: 417 Helpfulness rating:  There are ways to radically remove all content below a certain frequency (let’s say 30herz) but the common equalizers won’t do that, they just roll stuff off. The issue is that most of the time the roll off affects the sound that remains inside the cutoff boundaries as well. Either stuff close to the roll off gets quieter or you get more overall gain due to phase distortion (roughly said: the eq introduces small delays, frequencies will shift and just clash into each other). You can solve this using linear phase equalizers that introduce the same amount of latency to all frequencies. Use google to find demos and give it a go. 22-03-2011 23:23 BattleDrone 2161... the future. Registration Date: 30-12-2005 Posts: 6,413 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by Gregg There are ways to radically remove all content below a certain frequency (let’s say 30herz) but the common equalizers won’t do that, they just roll stuff off. The issue is that most of the time the roll off affects the sound that remains inside the cutoff boundaries as well. Either stuff close to the roll off gets quieter or you get more overall gain due to phase distortion (roughly said: the eq introduces small delays, frequencies will shift and just clash into each other). You can solve this using linear phase equalizers that introduce the same amount of latency to all frequencies. Use google to find demos and give it a go. That's one hell of a decent post matey __ Check my soundcloud (exclusive tracks on there) 23-03-2011 19:51 padders Tourist Registration Date: 01-03-2009 Posts: 16 yep thats some great knowledge i'd never heard before. I'll try that. big ups 26-03-2011 09:52 Gregg Wicked Producer Registration Date: 16-05-2007 Posts: 417 Helpfulness rating:  I'm glad my effort is appreciated. 26-03-2011 19:23 padders Tourist Registration Date: 01-03-2009 Posts: 16 Right so I've been looking up eqs and found this one which is free and guess what no increases in the gain when cutting! Problem solved http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2011/01/...sed-by-voxengo/ 27-03-2011 18:19 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » Low cutting eating up my head room.