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Impact
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01-03-2011 16:17 |
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BattleDrone
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I dunno about breakdowns, but I'm not a fan of 1:30 intro's...
WTF?
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01-03-2011 21:06 |
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sevin
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1:30 intro's are fine... makes a welcome change from all the 'switch mixing' and allows the dj to enjoy a bit of beat matching for once... a good dj shouldn't care about the lengh of an intro.. he should know the tracks he plays nside and out
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01-03-2011 21:11 |
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Spectral Pace
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This is an interesting point. At the end of the day Drum N Bass at it's heart is 'club' music. If we forget that then it starts to become something else (better or worse, who knows).
I tend to prefer short intros, (32 bars) although some producers take the piss (Sub Focus - Timewarp VIP - 16bars!). I think its all about variety. You wanna do some long mixes, some short mixes, some switch mixes, but Sevin's right, a good DJ should know his (or her
) tunes inside out.
It's not just about intros either. I've found that if I want to tease a tune, then unless I'm quick as a flash taking the teaser off and mixing the new tune in, I usually miss the track marker and am too late to mix the tune in for the second drop (hence the need for 3 decks).
Impact - in answer to your first question, I think that they have to be DJ friendly. If they're listenable then that's cool also, but the priority has to be for a club/DJ environment. Obviously DnB is so diverse now that you've got lots of different types to appeal to different audiences.
Anyway, Peace.
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01-03-2011 21:32 |
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m-ej
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do two versions, one dj freindly and one that pleases you.
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01-03-2011 21:46 |
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Tunes with a very long synth etc intro's are all well and good but they can only really be used as set starters IMO unless you add a nice crisp hi hat that a dj can easily hear.
I skipped past many a good tune in my box back in the day as I could not hear the intro when playing it live. great for a studio tape but not on the road.
If you make a tune that can be mixed easily from the start it would get a lot more chance of being played out.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by XTC Nottingham: 02-03-2011 12:49.
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02-03-2011 01:07 |
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dLO
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Originally posted by Impact
Do we aim to be DJ friendly with our production or just make a listenable tune??
this thread: http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthrea...t=275054&page=2
seems to have a few bugbears of DJ's about dnb producers and their tracks..
Interesting take on it.
I have a couple of mates who DJ and they say that my breakdowns are always too short... maybe they should learn to mix faster
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i've just been getting into mixing over the past month or so & have noticed that its much more interesting (dare i say easier) to mix songs with longer intros / bridges. I feel like the longer intros gives you time to mess with the switch & gives you a little more leeway with entry / exit points.
Agree w/ earlier points tho - DJs should now their tunes inside / out.
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02-03-2011 18:49 |
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BattleDrone
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I'm more a Ramones kinda guy... One Two Three Four... BANG
I hate making intros because it's really hard to keep it interesting make it build up and not give away the drop.
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03-03-2011 13:08 |
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ksd
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
I'm more a Ramones kinda guy... One Two Three Four... BANG
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03-03-2011 23:05 |
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