 why do British think their drum'n'bass sucks??? |
miki 
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I saw many reviews where britrish producers said their drum'n'bass sucks. As I a heard some songs, they were good, I like them.
Can somebody explain me why is it so?
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19-07-2004 20:26 |
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Surya
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That's just some guys who like to talk negative about shit, or they just aren't into that style...
If I had to write reviews about Anthem Trance, I would say it sucks too...
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19-07-2004 20:37 |
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Surya
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The guys making it probably still love it, and all those guys still going to the parties too, so I don't think it's a majority which doen't like it anymore...
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20-07-2004 18:07 |
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Petradex
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Originally posted by lotus
d&b has been around for longer in the uk |
Also the truth is that d&b has properly become a business thing here. Its all over Tv adverts and alot of events are really over-priced.I think it makes it harder for some people to stay passionate about the music
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13-08-2004 16:48 |
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Surya
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Originally posted by Petradex
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Originally posted by lotus
d&b has been around for longer in the uk |
Also the truth is that d&b has properly become a business thing here. Its all over Tv adverts and alot of events are really over-priced.I think it makes it harder for some people to stay passionate about the music |
I hope it never comes that far here, although it is starting to be a bit like that (Star Warz ads on TV and radio) 
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13-08-2004 19:50 |
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Petradex
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| I hope it never comes that far here, although it is starting to be a bit like that (Star Warz ads on TV and radio)
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Star Warz is a dnb event right? Yeah thats bad but trust me once you see big cosmetics and shampoo companies using d'n'b in their adverts to seem "street" you know it really is the end. Ive even seen a kids tv program that uses Brown Paper Bag as its theme-tune! Commercialisation has turnedn the mayority of d'n'b into a fashion-statement in this country rather than any kind of underground movement or genre and that really sucks for those of us who have loved this music for years.
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16-08-2004 11:33 |
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Surya
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Just wait for the next big thing, DnB will be "out" and it will return to it's undergroud roots. Just a matter of time...
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16-08-2004 12:14 |
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KoFFiE
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I wish I could believe that, but after seeing a few styles getting screwed in the name of money, I can't really say I do. From what I hear here and in the other thread here, I don't like the feel of the DnB scene there in the UK, it's exactly where other styles went, and never came back in full glory. Evolution ain't a bad thing, but money tends to stop it, so you stay turning around the same melodies, rithms, structures, ... simply cause it sells and is accessible to the big public.
Offcourse something new will emerge or split off, you can count on that, but when/where/what? No idea, but certainly - you can have some influence on that.
Ok - doesn't really sound appealing, but it did happen to house-styles in general (trance, techno, hardcore, ...) and even rnb (which I don't like at all), and they're not the only-ones. Offcourse - drum'n bass isn't as accessible in general as trance or rnb, but I'm afraid it will become comparable to what happened to techno (I'm talking about the real stuff, things you hardly hear unless you really look for it). There are very few actual techno clubs in belgium, and yet, at every I Love techno there are tens of thousands people... Where the hell do they come from? Just because it's marketted, spread all over the media - in short - commercialized, it attracts a "big" public.
You still, even at this point, hardly hear any techno on the radio, which is normal because it without a dj, a big part of the music's charm drops - just like with DnB imho. Yet it has become commercialized and mainstream - the public that visits those parties are - well - mainstream, getting drunk, taking pills, be agressive, ... You never saw any fights on techno-parties 4-5 years ago, everybody was friendly for each other. This started changing a few years later, together with the mainstreaming of the genre when the public changed. At that point, more simple and brainless styles were developed to make it more accessible - the whole tuning-beats shit, and a few other things (don't follow it anymore at all). It screwed techno on party-level, as music - there still is a push, a lot of new stuff is coming from the ex-soviet countries now like hungaria and poland etc - and still, every techno party, even if intended as a small-one attracts a public where I don't wanna party with.
I'm sure it wasn't the music that let me turn my back to techno in general, it's the public it attracts.
Hope I'm wrong, but I'd rather stay realistic and be prepared...
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16-08-2004 15:43 |
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Surora23
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maybe jsut caues london, and the UK were the ones who really formed it...aside movingshadow, outbreak, and metalheadz, there are a lot of UK dnb labels that just are in their own lil world...i personally dont liek the whole jump-up ragga feel...IMO its the most annyoing shit ive heard in my life..but then again its all in your style..i guess these particular guys dont know what the fuck their talking about..cause i know id sure as hell rather spin some ragga record than some wimpy ass Jay-z refcord or something...
as for what surya said, anthem trance blows...progressive and uplifting all teh way...but then again its all in opinion...
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Rinse it OUT!!!! 
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