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A'llo mates!!! Shakeshark

So yeah, we got Project week in 3 weeks, aight? And I am doing a project about the evolution of DnB.

So, I thought I'd get the pros here who's been in the scene since the beginning, to help me out with this, so when the week comes, I could write my Power-Point the first day, and use the 3 other days on making small samples of some DnB choons, which I am to show the class. So yeah, this would definitely be the place to suck up some info.

So, this is what I need:

(Wikipedia is good, but not good enough!!)

*When was DnB (Jungle at first, offcourse) born? (I got that, 1992)
*Where, and HOW was it born?
*Who was one of the most known artists at that time?
*How did it happen, that Jungle music became sort of "associated" with criminalty (Thats what I heard)?
*When did producers "create" the DnB genre?
*What 'instruments' were used to produce DnB at that time?
*When did producers start to use the PC for production?
*How did it spread?

(I think there is more, will update.)

Alright, I will also need some choons from the early days. Like, one from 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and I will pick the ones from 2009-10.

Since I know Ciaran is into some of the early stuff, I would be glad if he could get me some of the 2000-04 stuff.

BattleDrone, if I am correct, you're still stuck in 92, aren't you? Hahah! Tongue
Could you get me some of the good ol' stuff mate? Cheers! Big Grin

It would also be cool if I could 'interview' BattleDrone about the early DnB days, and Sentinel about the alternative style!

You might think I am trying to get you to do my homework for me, but I have to translate all the bollox into Danish, too. Reason I am posting, is cause I think I'd get atleast a B for this project. And that we're all passioned about DnB, and we support each other, am I right?! Big Grin

There is like.. NOONE from my class that likes DnB, in fact they hate it, some of it haven't heard it. I am the only Head in my part of the country Denmark, so I am the one risking my hide on this! ROFL

Thanks people, will let you know how it goes!

- Jeff, proud Dotbe member!

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heyy manBig Grin

it was born in england right?

most known artist must be someone like goldy.

instruments was always electronic computer stuff, but guess alot has changed in that so from trance to more complicated stuff etc.

this is what I know based on your questionsTongue I'm gonna make a speech about d'n'b very soon I might be able to translate alot of stuff for you and might be able to help you outSmile

oh also tell about d'n'b in comericials (well they only use the amenTongue )
it makes a comercial very energetic, thats why some of my class mates call dnb lame comercial music, but well we work that out with a fistSmile

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also should ask one mo question: when started ganja to be asociated with the dnb/jungle scene?
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heyy manBig Grin

it was born in england right?

most known artist must be someone like goldy.

instruments was always electronic computer stuff, but guess alot has changed in that so from trance to more complicated stuff etc.

this is what I know based on your questionsTongue I'm gonna make a speech about d'n'b very soon I might be able to translate alot of stuff for you and might be able to help you outSmile

oh also tell about d'n'b in comericials (well they only use the amenTongue )
it makes a comercial very energetic, thats why some of my class mates call dnb lame comercial music, but well we work that out with a fistSmile


Yeah, at a club in London I believe. Yeah, I've heard that Goldie is the most recognized one Tongue

And thanks for wanting to help me out mate!

DnB is also being used in action moves / games, such as Need For Speed, people just don't notice it, hahah! xD

LOL, maybe I should poke around on the Lifted forums, and make a thread asking for Spor's help, LOL.

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DnB is also being used in action moves / games, such as Need For Speed, people just don't notice it, hahah! xD


yeah indeed I sometimes tell people this and they like damn your rightTongue
or just don't know

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also should ask one mo question: when started ganja to be asociated with the dnb/jungle scene?


good one!Big Grin
guess when reggae was used in dnb, and reggae is asociated with ganja. (cause reggae is soo fucking good when you've smoked a blunt believe meTongue and the rastafaria guys ofc.)

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20-03-2010 22:18
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here's a sorta order...
House > Hardcore > Jungle > Drum n' Bass.
I think Hardcore started out in the early 1990s, Jungle in 93/94 and drum n' bass maybe in '96 or '97? I haven't got a fakkin' clue when dNb started out.
A good label to look at is Moving Shadow, they started out releasing Hardcore and later in the decade tuned to drum n' bass. If you listen to a Moving Shadow tune, the style of the vinyl indicates what the scene was like at the time of its release. For example, 'Ryme Tyme - T Minus' (2000) shows how drum n' bass was turning to the Techstep sound.
Do you know about the Amen break? This is a break commonly used in Hardcore and almost always in Jungle, and sometimes in dNb. It is taken from 'The Winston Brothers - Amen Brother'. That's important; it shows how the emerging styles of music were (and still are) influenced by other pieces of music, that they blend things together to create a new sounds.
You should look at a guy called DJ Hype, he started out in the Hardcore scene, then turned to Jungle and finally drum n' bass. He also started his own label, 'True Playaz' I think???
Example of Hardcore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bA9Yjmzx70
Example of Jungle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxeStgwA6gk (note how Jungle sometimes has Reggae sounds, again it's an example of music being influenced; Jungle was popular with all cultures by the way).
Example of drum n' bass (2000): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccMgPioLbo
Example of drum n' bass (2004): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsUsykyBys (Note how the Reese is now being used in drum n bass, I'll explain what it is if you don't know).
Info on Hardcore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeat_hardcore
Info on Jungle/drum n' bass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_and_bass
Info on Suburban Base (rec. label): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suburban_Base
Info on Moving Shadow (rec. label): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Shadow (Noisia are signed to them)
Info on DJ Hype: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dj_hype
The Amen break: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbCYZOJxK6A, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac (the narrator sounds bored with life, though).

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umm, I think the early styles were made with crappy computers (Atari or something like that) and synthesizers... you'll notice that Jungle tends to stick to the square wave). They would have had pretty basic music programs and used reel-to-reel for recordings.
SHIT - here's a useful documentary I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkkk3Nbyqpc (also, got to 4:42 and see what they're using to make tunes)
MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THIS, it shows how Jungle was gaining recognition

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http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

Check out the Jungle section.

If you want to get into more new school styles like skullstep, darkside, fourth step, you'll need to do additional research - but this is a good website if you want to learn the roots of the music.
21-03-2010 06:00
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Good stuff everyone!

Cia, I always thought Hardcore was that BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM stuff, like Angerfist ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEHuyMc7paE )

Will look at all the info in a bit, thanks!

And yeah, I know about the Amen break, and that it has been resampled in more ways than you could count.

And all these choons shows how much DnB has changed over the years!

DnB for life! Gangsta Listen Bigup Rinse Rockin Oot Woot Shakeshark

Aight, just watched the Jungle documentary, good stuff!

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oh shit, my type of old skool is BREAKBEAT Hardcore, all these name are getting confusing haha. Damn Hardcore stealing Breakbeat Hardcore's name.

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oh shit, my type of old skool is BREAKBEAT Hardcore, all these name are getting confusing haha. Damn Hardcore stealing Breakbeat Hardcore's name.


yeah was expection UNTS UNTS when I clicked the hardcore link lolTongue
but this was much betterBig Grin

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that's an interesting profile pic you got there. Got any Bowser porn? haha

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quote:
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that's an interesting profile pic you got there. Got any Bowser porn? haha


rofl only this Tongue

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yeah you guys made me think how bout a porn movie on jungle dnb, instead of those bluesy tunes they stolen from chill-out albums?
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yeah you guys made me think how bout a porn movie on jungle dnb, instead of those bluesy tunes they stolen from chill-out albums?


DUDE thats a killer idea!
int he begging they just strip and stuff bores me untill something real fun goes offTongue
why not listen to some good shit whilst looking at that.

damn ima go and send tunes out to porn companies might have a gold mine here Tongue

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AHEM there is a tune called 'Deep Porn' by AK1200 & Danny Breaks, it plays at 2:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmkjJEdo0...584DCB2&index=7
Nothing to with me, hehehe!

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haha it's acctually a good tune tooTongue
and how many tunes aren't there with chicks screaming for dick huh?Tongue
toomany Tongue

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Another tune by AK1200, very similar to Deep Porn. He must really like porn.

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Check the doa wiki and wikipedia in general for some facts....
Watch the video about the amen break on youtube...

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