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SteakJohnson SteakJohnson is a male
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My tracks sound great on ipod headphones, but when i export them and play em on my already bass biased desktop speakers it sounds like death, when plenty of other peoples songs sound great on em. Could I have just ovverused sub-bass/bass in my track and this's why its muddy? My only mixing options here are ipod headphones btw, so im hoping theres someway around this muddiness... plz help

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02-03-2010 04:15
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yes there is a way. buy some decent speakers. how the hell could you mix and eq on ipod heads? those deadphones will give you different perception of the sound every time you put the in your ear and if you press them into your ear you will hear the bass very strong, if you move them a bit you will hear the mids changing. but for no circumstance mix on those heads. at least if you have no options, go for some hi-fi heads, something sennheiser'ish, or something that you like. ipod heads are only for listening lady gaga and katy perry Devil !
02-03-2010 06:59
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well said KF Smile

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02-03-2010 07:35
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Even a pair of 10$ Phillips would do nice at first ;o Atleast it will be better than earplugs lol

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03-03-2010 12:54
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could you mention a brand that has the least to do with audio field? genius maybe a4tech.
no the 10$ pair would do worse. at work i have only cheap heads and they are crap. they boost the low very much, and have few mids and no highs at all. you should really get at least some hi-fi heads or some hi-fi speakers, NOT 5.1. headphones do not give you the full perspective of the sound you listen to. you hear your sub bass but you don't know where it hits on big speakers. i know cause i also mix on heads and i am aware that i won't not get the fullest of my sounds. they should hit certain parts of your body. i know that the bass should hit you on your chest. but wth can you hit when you listen on heads but your ears and brain. i might as well make my bass hit you on your balls.
if you can't use speakers buy a good pair of hi-fi headphones and test your track on other speakers, see what it needs/lacks, take some notes and then return to your desk and make the proper adjusments.
that's kinda all i have to say.
03-03-2010 20:00
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quote:
Originally posted by SteakJohnson
My tracks sound great on ipod headphones


default iPod headphones are the cheapest and lousiest trash headphones I ever owned. Do not compose while using them, it can only go wrong.

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Originally posted by SteakJohnson
My tracks sound great on ipod headphones


default iPod headphones are the cheapest and lousiest trash headphones I ever owned. Do not compose while using them, it can only go wrong.


Well, believe me, chinese headphones are a lot worse Big Grin

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Originally posted by BattleDrone
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Originally posted by SteakJohnson
My tracks sound great on ipod headphones


default iPod headphones are the cheapest and lousiest trash headphones I ever owned. Do not compose while using them, it can only go wrong.


Well, believe me, chinese headphones are a lot worse Big Grin


Name any brand of headphones that aren't made in China these days?

Don't want any discussion about what's worse, it's just that iPod headphones are crap and shouldn't be used for the purpose of composing. My original iPod headphones didn't have any frequency response lower than 100Hz it seems. No wonder you boosted the the bass levels beyond sanity to hear at least a bit of bass.

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04-03-2010 14:23 Homepage of BattleDrone
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quote:
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
quote:
Originally posted by SteakJohnson
My tracks sound great on ipod headphones


default iPod headphones are the cheapest and lousiest trash headphones I ever owned. Do not compose while using them, it can only go wrong.


Well, believe me, chinese headphones are a lot worse Big Grin


Name any brand of headphones that aren't made in China these days?

Don't want any discussion about what's worse, it's just that iPod headphones are crap and shouldn't be used for the purpose of composing. My original iPod headphones didn't have any frequency response lower than 100Hz it seems. No wonder you boosted the the bass levels beyond sanity to hear at least a bit of bass.


Sorry, my bad, I was referring to no-name chinese headphones Big Grin

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04-03-2010 15:03 Homepage of Muad'Dib
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shit i need to stop using them then

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10-03-2010 05:17
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SteakJohnson, obviously there is one common problem you might reconsider when making tunes. I am doing this for a very long time, so this advice may be of use as much as help for sure to you. To make quality tunes, there is simple rule or rules you have to follow:

- read books for mixing and mastering(by Bob Katz is excellent)

Although this is not of much help for you maybe as you need to dig into the plenty of informations in those books (I strongly suggest you and to all here to read those books), I will give you some starting point for your particular problem (I am sorry I didn't hear any of your tunes), but instead I have an answer to your question because it is considered clear.

After composing a music piece or to say after capturing your ideas on the digital device you have to:

- relax a day, your ears have to be fresh beacuse of the previous
- start to mix the music piece channel by channel by starting with the drum
section first because it is the loudest part of your track, next mix the
mellodies, then textures or FXs, and at last the bass (it must be at -10db)
- EQ is next (start making proper "frequency" place for each section). Drum
section has to be with unique frequency range, but must not blend with the
other sections or elements of the musical composition. For example if your
drum section frequency range emphasis is from 200-1500 Hz, don't apply
the same emphasis to the lead synth (reese) or textures or other elements.
Let it be alone with no interference with the others. Don't take this literaly for
the drum section, because even in the drum section there are rules when
you mix frequencies while layering bassdrums, snares, hihats etc. This is just
to give you reference point of thinking. Think of this as a mountain with
valleys and every valley has to be filled with water, but anyway not to make
the situation the water to overflow and blend with the other's valley's water.
- next is the propper compression and dynamics(here you must experiment).
- the last thing is the mastering

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me
11-03-2010 14:48
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whoa thanks man, yea it certainly does help. Ill be sure to check out some of those books on mixing audio.

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