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dLO

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okay, this has been bugging me for a while.

Ya know the classic (non-amen) dnb drum pattern: kick on one, snare on two, kick on "3-and", snare on four, and b/t the 2 and the 3-and is where all the ghost snare stuff goes down...

but then there's the amen prevalent in most jungle (think anything like breakage's staggered dub or whatever)

anyways, the amen obviously has a slightly different kick/snare pattern.

So my question is:

Is there / does anybody know the name of a break that uses the amen pattern, but isn't an amen? So, same pattern, but w/out the classic amen ride & crash cymbals?

this is random, i know, but just curious if there's actually a name for breaks that use that pattern.

I'm familiar w/ some of the old-skool breaks (appache...), but not sure if there's names for some of the new-skool stuff.

Just curious really...

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22-01-2010 14:31

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Well it's easy enough to make yourself with one shots

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1: 2: 3:	kick: x----x-- snare: --x---x- hihat: xxxxxxxx

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22-01-2010 14:45

dLO

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quote:

Originally posted by thechronic
Well it's easy enough to make yourself with one shots

code:
1: 2: 3:	kick: x----x-- snare: --x---x- hihat: xxxxxxxx

oh yea, i know... i can make those all day Wink

but i was just wondering if there's a name for breaks that don't follow that pattern, but rather the "amen pattern" i guess, for lack of a better term

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22-01-2010 15:05

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not just the break but pattern in its self is called an amen break imo

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22-01-2010 15:48

BattleDrone BattleDrone is a male

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What would that be, an amen pattern?
The original amen is 4 bars long and all bars have a different pattern.

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22-01-2010 16:20

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Originally posted by BattleDrone

What would that be, an amen pattern?
The original amen is 4 bars long and all bars have a different pattern.

yea, see, to me that's the "classic dnb" pattern. but in the "amen" that i'm referring to the second snare always comes early.

So the kick is on the one snare on the two then the next snare comes on the "3-and"

that would be 1 measure. the next measure has kicks on "one" and on "one-and" snares are again on two and "3-and"

When you remove all the cymbals, ghost snares, etc. that's the basic kick/snare pattern behind most of the amen samples i hear...

guess i was just wondering if it goes by a diff name if it doesn't have that classic amen cymbal work to it.

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22-01-2010 18:00

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O, that...
check my breakbuilding tutorial, I refer to it as "the steppy pattern". The tutorial is for FL studio users, but even if you use something else I think it might be useful for you.

Normally all snares in a track hit on the same spot, it's the continuous element in a track, the kick plays on different timings. In the steppy pattern the kick is steady and the snare moves.

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22-01-2010 23:01

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quote:

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O, that...
check my breakbuilding tutorial, I refer to it as "the steppy pattern". The tutorial is for FL studio users, but even if you use something else I think it might be useful for you.

Normally all snares in a track hit on the same spot, it's the continuous element in a track, the kick plays on different timings. In the steppy pattern the kick is steady and the snare moves.

Yea... "Steppy Pattern" you should trademark that or something Wink

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23-01-2010 21:27

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