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If I want to remove frequencies from a certain sound (lets say for example I want to remove low end from a reese sample), is there any difference between using a high pass filter and EQing the frequencies out with a high pass band? I read that it is better to use a filter because EQing changes the whole sound but I don't know how it works, and I don't sense any difference.
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i'd suggest u try both and see what sounds better to u personally. i normally take out a bit of low end from my main reeces with an eq and for my higher reece layers i put a hi pass on it plus some more processing.

but ya man all down to what u feel works best for your own productions Big Grin

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I usually EQ stuff with a high pass band, especially because I can stack the EQs for a steeper -dB slope if I need to. I suppose I'm just trying to better understand my tools. Is the EQ subtly affecting my sound in a way I'm not noticing that might hurt sound quality later on during lets say the mastering process or whatever?

Because I hear adding small notches in a sound really changes the sound as a whole, so I wonder if its the same thing in this case..

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be careful when doing lots of high-passing be it an eq or a filter.

Always make sure you do it without hitting any solo buttons.

If you do it to all your sounds in isolation you can quickly end up with a thin sounding mix.

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quote:
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be careful when doing lots of high-passing be it an eq or a filter.

Always make sure you do it without hitting any solo buttons.

If you do it to all your sounds in isolation you can quickly end up with a thin sounding mix.

Very, very thin. This was a common problem I got 6-7 ago, when I was learning to do proper EQ. Either everything sounded thin (because of the mentioned reason) or everything was diving in mud.

Although I've never heard about notches changing the overall character of sound. I mean, you have analyzer - if it says something is changed, and your ears comply, then it is. Big Grin

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quote:
Originally posted by Zugzwang
If I want to remove frequencies from a certain sound (lets say for example I want to remove low end from a reese sample), is there any difference between using a high pass filter and EQing the frequencies out with a high pass band?


No real difference, an eq with a high pass band is a high pass filter. Although there may be differences in sound between different eqs and filters, different curves etc..
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Thanks guys, got it all sorted out now.
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i was gonna ask this very same question!

a tutor on my music tech course once said that every single track you use should use a filter, do many people here do that? id say i use either a filter or an EQ on most tracks i guess....

going back to the topic, i can see why using a hpf or lpf may work better when wanting to affect the highs and lows, but what about when wanting to treat the mid frequencies, would EQ be a more suitable tool?

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I use a high or low pass on pretty much everything. or at least an eq with either a high or low shelf involved.

The trick is to not over do it.

when I first started I always ended up with thin mixes because I always applied these in isolation (solo) so i would go higher than needed with the highpasses taking out all my low mids leaving things feeling hollow.

Which leads me onto the best advice I have ever had

TRY TO AVOID THE SOLO BUTTON

unless of course you are looking for an annoying resonant frequency Big Grin

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