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Hey all Big Grin


Now, everytime I get a good melody in my mind, I always try the best I can to make it sound like I want it to. Now, to get the matching breakbeat loop, thats where my idea gets fucked. The drums and the kicks n snares doesent go in harmony with the lead melody. That's why I want to make my own beats. I always try like 20 mins to get just SOMETHING to sound good, but I judge myself too much, so offcourse, "It sounds cool, but it doesent sound cool.".

So, are there any Breakbeat heads out there, who DONT uses sampled drumloops, that could show me how to make a decent sounding drumloop, without using any other loops? I got plenty of kicks and snares in my lib, now's just to mix em together, and make some heavy shizzle. Tongue

I kinda like the beat on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEzkFRNUMkQ

and this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMWpUJZrUW4


FYI, I use FL 9. Offcourse, I am open to using other software for making the drumloops, but thats all I will use it for. I will use FL as the Main DAW. Big Grin

Thanks Big Grin

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I think most people use loops or parts of loops when creating there own breaks. Partly because having a break played by a drummer normally gives the loop a more natural flow. I think, the secret is cutting the breaks and arranging and processing them into something of you own, which is just practice.

Once you have a basic break, it is pretty easy to just layer other hits with the loop.

If you use just individual hits. Most people tend to end up with something sounding very robotic. It takes years of experience to create something like Paradox does using hits and I'm sure he layers his hits over breaks to get the natural feel.

I think you would find it a lot easier loading a pre-cut break into you DAW and rearange and add effects to it to be honest and get an idea how a break works. No point trying to run before you can walk.

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If you use just individual hits. Most people tend to end up with something sounding very robotic.


..Sometimes that is not a bad thing tho Smile

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Originally posted by brucifer
If you use just individual hits. Most people tend to end up with something sounding very robotic.


..Sometimes that is not a bad thing tho Smile


yeah exactly, love to do a robot beat time to time. but it gets tiring and if you only humanize it a bit it becomes loads better...

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03-10-2009 16:15 Homepage of cynik
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Alright, I'ma have a try again then Tongue

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quote:
Originally posted by jeffijoe
So, are there any Breakbeat heads out there, who DONT uses sampled drumloops, that could show me how to make a decent sounding drumloop, without using any other loops?


As you can see from the samples page I've been doing this. You tell me if it is any good. I can teach you how to do this, but it takes time to develop your skills.

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03-10-2009 22:09 Homepage of BattleDrone
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Originally posted by jeffijoe
So, are there any Breakbeat heads out there, who DONT uses sampled drumloops, that could show me how to make a decent sounding drumloop, without using any other loops?


As you can see from the samples page I've been doing this. You tell me if it is any good. I can teach you how to do this, but it takes time to develop your skills.


Ah, BD, I like your breaks. If you got some spare time, I'd be honored to get some breakbeat lessons.

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04-10-2009 13:58 Homepage of jeffijoe
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BD why don't you make a tutorial?

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if you can get a copy of reason i would happily put up some drums from one of my tunes to look at, they arnt the best but it might help Wink
04-10-2009 15:39
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if you can get a copy of reason i would happily put up some drums from one of my tunes to look at, they arnt the best but it might help Wink


Good idea, I already have Reason 4. Big Grin

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gimme a bit and il disect a tune and upload the rsn file
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/sy216s

its a published song file so you cant nick my sounds Devil but it might set you on the road to some good drums. also should mention this is the way of doing it with breaks, im sure bds non break tut will be v v handy as breaks are gettin a bit rinsed nowadays, even a combi of the two techniques would be good.

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04-10-2009 17:45
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quote:
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http://www.sendspace.com/file/sy216s

its a published song file so you cant nick my sounds Devil but it might set you on the road to some good drums. also should mention this is the way of doing it with breaks, im sure bds non break tut will be v v handy as breaks are gettin a bit rinsed nowadays, even a combi of the two techniques would be good.


Aww.. Well, offcourse I was planning to rip them from it, then give myself credit for making them, and I would NEVER tell ANYONE about a guy named Demure, who made it. Happy

Lol, if I wanted to nick your sounds, then I wouldn't make this thread. This thread is about me, not wanting to use presampled loops. xD

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Big Grin im being carefull as a version of one of my tunes was ripped from this site by someone man, and some mormon chav has uploaded it to the you tube, nothin personal against you Smile
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If you want, I will upload my drums for my current track.

It has 2 amens, headzbreak and tighten up break all mixed into one. The amens are only using certain hits, same with the tighten up.

give it a listen and if you want it, I will put up a reason file Wink

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@ Demure

I understand, and offcourse, I know it wasnt against me. ^^


@ Brucifer

Yeah, I'd love to hear your breaks. I will give you feedback on them aswell. Smile

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06-10-2009 16:22 Homepage of jeffijoe
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