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CULTURE BOY CULTURE BOY is a male

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ez all,

i process each and every sample on there own n iv tryed to put a compressor on a send n send it to my beat mixer tracks n im getting some bad phase on my beats, is is possible to do what im trying or do i have to bounce the beats to a wav and then compress the whole lot?

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23-09-2009 12:48

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if your using fruity i believe theres no pdc i read but i may be wrong. im not really experienced with the way of the fruity though so i may be wrong. there is a way round it but it could be a bit long thats to bounce the drums and process them with a compressor and then bounce em again and manually line up the compressed drums and the uncompressed drums mixing them to taste, i cant see it sounding too much different but it is a ballache

23-09-2009 17:11

Gregg

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You shouldn’t put effects on the sends that have too much latency and that you’d want to have applied 100%. The reason is because with the send channels you usually get a mix out of the original channel and the send, not hundred percent send sound. It’s just as if you’d apply compression directly to the desired channel, but having the mix level of your effect set to 50 % so that there is half compressed and half non compressed sound. Would work with reverb or delay effects, but not with compression or eq.

If you want to compress differently eqed or tweaked sounds all with the same ratio you’d have to do it not via the sends.
For instance; you want channel one and two to be compressed exactly the same way, but you have eqed them separately already (or one has distortion the other does not…). Set the compressor to the next empty channel (ch. three in our case), select channel one and right-click the little arrow above the FX symbol on channel three and select “rout to this track only (do the same thing with ch. 2 or any other you fancy) Now the whole sound of channel 1 and 2 is going through the effects applied on channel 3. No phase.

Hope that’s how you wanted it.

23-09-2009 18:30

CULTURE BOY CULTURE BOY is a male

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cheers gregg lad, will give it a bash

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23-09-2009 18:34

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Originally posted by Gregg
having the mix level of your effect set to 50 % so that there is half compressed and half non compressed sound. Would work with reverb or delay effects, but not with compression

Yes it would. Using a compressor on a send is vital to my drum sound.

You need to find a good quality compressor that has no latency at all that way phase shouldn't be an issue.

But shouldn't FL have automatic latency correction? or am I wrong

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23-09-2009 18:50

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Originally posted by Gregg
Would work with reverb or delay effects, but not with compression or eq.

I doubt you will be saying that after you tried the NYC compression

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23-09-2009 18:51

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HAH Jimmy I know all your secrets Big Grin

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23-09-2009 18:52

Gregg

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Originally posted by Ghost

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Yes it would. Using a compressor on a send is vital to my drum sound.

I didn't mean in general. as this is the FL board, I thought it was clear I was just relating to the particular software.
and it seems not to work to have the standard compressor (or eq) on one of the by IL dedicated sends. If it can be done I'm eager to know!

anyways, I described in detail how to get around the problem so far.

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23-09-2009 20:48

Gregg

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Ok I think I didn’t make my point clear. I’ll have another go at it.

In CBs case who apparently wants several different processed sounds to be 100% compressed you shouldn’t use the sends. That's why he should route it through an extra channel which has the compressor on it.

you can of course have a compressor on a send for, as cynic mentioned, parallel compression. But then you’ll get the phase because FL appears not to have automatic delay compensation. So if you don’t want to deal with it yourself and set it, you should rather bounce to wav. But as far as I understood that’s not what CB is after anyways.

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23-09-2009 20:59

selig
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IIRC fl's compressor has a latency of 64 samples.

So to stop the drums phasing route them to a new mixer track, instead of the master, and delay the new track by 64 samples.

The help file explains PDC better than I can.

http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html..._trackprops.htm

24-09-2009 20:32

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