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if he exists with infinite power but doesn't use it, then does it matter that he has infinite power?

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24-07-2009 21:47 Homepage of Halph-Price
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I guess you're refering to the belief in deism here, whereby god creates the universe but doesn't intervene in human affairs and the natural world? Although I have never come across any persuasive argument or evidence for the existence of a god, deism does at least avoid the absurd bronze-age supernaturalism of monothesism. Many of the founding fathers of the US were deists of course.

To answer your question - no.

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so, what does it mean then to believe in a god that has no supernatural powers? that's like praising Clark Kent for all the things he's done for us.

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Originally posted by Halph-Price
if he exists with infinite power but doesn't use it, then does it matter that he has infinite power?



"God" is an abused word for some kind of creator

A. if u mean the "cristian god" (no need for capitals) , then i dont give a fuck...

AA. if u mean a possible creator in your eyes as a god , then he is not allowed to use his power unless he has to prevent something in order to let the life on earth existing for its purpose , so only when human kind would need to survive and is endangered , a divine entervention of some kind could happen.

-greyone 2009-


lol
28-07-2009 20:32
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so, what does it mean then to believe in a god that has no supernatural powers? that's like praising Clark Kent for all the things he's done for us.


the reason to believe something is : subjective , and/or unwillingly (forced? dont know the right word)

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28-07-2009 20:37
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if he exists with infinite power but doesn't use it, then does it matter that he has infinite power?



"God" is an abused word for some kind of creator

A. if u mean the "cristian god" (no need for capitals) , then i dont give a fuck...

AA. if u mean a possible creator in your eyes as a god , then he is not allowed to use his power unless he has to prevent something in order to let the life on earth existing for its purpose , so only when human kind would need to survive and is endangered , a divine entervention of some kind could happen.

-greyone 2009-


lol



naw i see god as a supernatural being with infinite power. he made rain, and meteors, and the sun rise, and the planet turn, and create the sun, and planets and the shinning sparkles int eh sky, that might be the souls of people.... until we learned some shit.

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28-07-2009 20:39 Homepage of Halph-Price
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
if he exists with infinite power but doesn't use it, then does it matter that he has infinite power?



"God" is an abused word for some kind of creator

A. if u mean the "cristian god" (no need for capitals) , then i dont give a fuck...

AA. if u mean a possible creator in your eyes as a god , then he is not allowed to use his power unless he has to prevent something in order to let the life on earth existing for its purpose , so only when human kind would need to survive and is endangered , a divine entervention of some kind could happen.

-greyone 2009-


lol



naw i see god as a supernatural being with infinite power. he made rain, and meteors, and the sun rise, and the planet turn, and create the sun, and planets and the shinning sparkles int eh sky, that might be the souls of people.... until we learned some shit.


maybe

but then dont you think there would be more of those so called gods ? and some kind of hierarchy .
28-07-2009 21:07
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who cares

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28-07-2009 21:39 Homepage of Halph-Price
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It only matters for those people who believe that...
28-07-2009 22:48
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quote:
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who cares


... about your questions ?
28-07-2009 22:50
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quote:
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
if he exists with infinite power but doesn't use it, then does it matter that he has infinite power?



"God" is an abused word for some kind of creator

A. if u mean the "cristian god" (no need for capitals) , then i dont give a fuck...

AA. if u mean a possible creator in your eyes as a god , then he is not allowed to use his power unless he has to prevent something in order to let the life on earth existing for its purpose , so only when human kind would need to survive and is endangered , a divine entervention of some kind could happen.

-greyone 2009-


lol



naw i see god as a supernatural being with infinite power. he made rain, and meteors, and the sun rise, and the planet turn, and create the sun, and planets and the shinning sparkles int eh sky, that might be the souls of people.... until we learned some shit.


maybe

but then dont you think there would be more of those so called gods ? and some kind of hierarchy .



what i mean is something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
28-07-2009 22:51
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only god humans can really appreciate is the Sun which gave life to all living things on earth. without it, there wouldnt be us

so in some weird way the Sun is our creator. not that it had anything to do with it in ways of choice, after all its only a star

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...only a star

Easy with 'only a star' my friend. You can't even imagine how conscious it really is. Smile

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29-07-2009 15:08 Homepage of Muad'Dib
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...only a star

Easy with 'only a star' my friend. You can't even imagine how conscious it really is. Smile


that changes the whole concept. but how a star can do anything other than burn everything or cool down?

p.s. Vid (the Sun) was the god of Slavs, before they accepted christianity. stupid christians!

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A star can emit energy and receive energy. Think of it as a really big resonator, like a neuron.
Which complies with my theory that we're a part of a big conscious machinery - a big brain, if you will. And stars and similar objects are resonators and sub-groups of 'neurons' in the whole thing.

Might be true.

Stupid christians, I'd say that too. You sure he was called Vid? That's 'sight' I believe.

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29-07-2009 17:51 Homepage of Muad'Dib
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about a stars output energy , this is a hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

very interesting Red Face
29-07-2009 18:00
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quote:
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Might be true.


Are you sure? It sounds extremely unlikely given what we what know about cosmology and physics. Is there any evidence for this theory? Is it falisable? Is it even testable?

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Conscious stars eh? Big Grin

I can't bring myself to indulge that particular 'big brain' notion I'm afraid! (though it may make good sci-fi-fantasy material Smile )

Our 'answers' lie in the quantum world and beyond. Far more interesting and wondrous than any religous viewpoints.

Provided the er, messiah doesn't arrive (of course) to answer the 'believers' prayers Tongue

EDIT: I just caught myself discussing RELIGION on a drum n bass production site - now THAT is strange Shocked Wink

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29-07-2009 19:32
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EDIT: I just caught myself discussing RELIGION on a drum n bass production site - now THAT is strange Shocked Wink


haha Smile

the drum'n'bass is just distraction Red Face Big Grin , the real deal is the offtopic here ! Devil
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EDIT: I just caught myself discussing RELIGION on a drum n bass production site - now THAT is strange Shocked Wink


haha Smile

the drum'n'bass is just distraction Red Face Big Grin , the real deal is the offtopic here ! Devil


lol! Think u may be right there dude!

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