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HEXO HEXO is a male
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Got about 3500 to 4000 dollars and thinking about getting new gear. I already have a computer.

HP m9517c-b
Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-bit
AMD Phenom™ X4 9550 Quad-Core Processor
8GB Ram
2 FireWire(IEEE 1394)

The current setup i am looking at is as follow..

Steinberg MR816 CSX Interface( comes with cubase AI4 software)
Steinberg CC121 USB Control Surface for Cubase
2 Yamaha HS50M Active monitors
Yamaha KX49 49-key MIDI controller keyboard
Blue microphone Bluebird
Sony MDR-7506 Headphones

at this price range what would you guys recommend ?

any opinions as far as different gear would be appreciated.
12-07-2009 22:23
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Bit vague

What do you want to achieve with your set up?

Just produce dnb? record some instruments, if so ever more than one?

How acoustically sound is the room that you'll be putting this set-up in?

What sort of level would you say you're production is at?

Are you going to want any other software for your music making or are you going to acquire it from other 'sources'

Not dissing your choices at all just that without some of the answers to those questions its hard to give any opinions on your choices Big Grin

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12-07-2009 22:33 Homepage of D2o
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interesting, why the bluebird, you certainly want a true quality studio mic. but you'll need an audio interface with that, as well as stand, and a plosive screen. you can make one with a coat hanger and nylon stocking hoes, so no big cash drop for the pop shield.


MDR-V6 is a cheaper version of the MDR-7506 but with a wider rated response, and IMHO it's a calssic. oh and i read here that the mdr-7506 comes with a gold connector. shouldn't mix metals. so timeline of 5 years, there's been known corrosion that happens between silver and gold metals plugs vs jacks. so if you got a computer, it's a silver connector. really, it's only guitar stuff that uses gold.... dj and other stuff usually silver.

that and the MDR-V6 will save you about 20 bucks or so, with no real lack in quality, good choice either way for mixing.



but good advice is to just google most of it and read reviews...


still nice choice on the bluebird mic they look cool, always reminds me of the



blueballs mic.


for mics, i suggest going to the store, seeing if they got a sale, and then figuring out online if it's good buy or not... i find a simle SM58 works great for just recording vocals, which is what most rappers use anyways, unless you have a good room to record, then get a condenser mic... for recording on music, shitty mics don't stand out too much. if you were doing acustic jazz / R&b you need the expensive mics... but this is dnb, so, it'll be distorted digital vocals later on anyways, with phaser effects and delays, and filterd out like fuck, so... a good mic isn't needed as much.


if you have never used/had a mic before, and don't have a good input, then just get a simple dynamic mic, like the SM58, and learn how to use them and vocals, then you can get a fancy mic. it's like getting a jagur for your first car. you always see thoes ids crashing the powerful cars in teh first week.

you can break sensitive mics like the condenser ones b yelling too hard in them... even more so with ribbon mics. sm58 you can record with it underwater... you can use it like a morning star on a XLR cable and use it to tear down dry wall, while recording with it.

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12-07-2009 23:00 Homepage of Halph-Price
HEXO HEXO is a male
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thanks for the info guy's

As far as my situation goes i have been producing and DJing Drum n bass, Hip-Hop and Chillout for some time know, i would say since about 1998-99. Recently i have moved from my house in Florida to Puerto Rico were i left my current studio setup to my younger brother.

Digidesign 003 & ProTools LE 7
Korg Triton
MPC2000XL
Yamaha 01V Mixer
Rode NT1-A

Unfortunately there aren't many places that i can shop for pro audio equipment here so most of the research that i have done and the reviews that i have read are all online.(I have however found a Digidesign reseller here.)

As far as my new setup i want to keep my options open. My main production will be centered around Drum n bass but i also want a studio capable of recording entire bands and different genres since most of the music here in Puerto Rico is tailored for Latin music( Though i love to see the expression on their faces when i turn up the volume on some darkstep tracks.)

I also am going to give Cubase a go instead of Digidesign this time around and
Thats basically how i came to the conclusion of the gear that i wanted to purchase.

As far as the acoustics in the room they aren't really that great but can be improved significantly with Acoustic Room Treatment, however i will be leaving that for when i am situated correctly in my new home.

For software i will be purchasing VSTi's and perhaps Fruityloops 8 but in the time being i will be concentrating more on Cubase AI4 than anything else.

Once again thanks for any info or help you guys can provide...
13-07-2009 02:13
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for audio recording pro tools is the top of the line. does not get any more stable then that. period. for the longest time they never even had midi input for insturments, and had there own format for plug-ins, but still are world reknown for quality recordings. if you got a 003 i would a kept that. fuck.

cubase is better in regards for VST's then pro tools, but i found it way too complicated for me, and i understand almost every other platform from reason, FLstudio, logic, pro tools, audacity, cool pro/audition, and Live. cubase is too complicated for me.



trust me, for reviews go online, local guys don't know as much as everyone on the net combined...


anyways, hope this helps a bit, i know what it's like when you need some opnions. everything you choosing seems fine indeed if you can afford it, quality stuff for sure, that's really pro. i'd look into the room treatment soon if you got a set-up like that coming.

I understand why you left that korg triton, who needs to lug that bitch around when you can get a usb keyboard 1/4 of the weight, but why get rid of the MPC?!

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13-07-2009 06:26 Homepage of Halph-Price
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You left all of that to your brother?

A 003 and a 01v mixer?!?!

was it a 003 rack or controller? I've just got myself a controller 003 and I wouldn't change it for the world!

Like halph said I would try to stick with Protools if I was you. From my experiences with recording with various software I just think Tools is much better.

The MPC could be replaced with software easy enough these days I feel.

And Mixing in the box really isn't a problem either.

Why don't you buy a 003 direct from the digistore?
If you got one of them and a Focusrite Octopre with the ADAT card then you could have potentially 16 recordable inputs with is plenty for a full band.

Instead of the 003 you could go the M-Audio Route and get the project mix which is an audio interface as well as a control surface.

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13-07-2009 08:45 Homepage of D2o
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You left all of that to your brother?

A 003 and a 01v mixer?!?!

was it a 003 rack or controller? I've just got myself a controller 003 and I wouldn't change it for the world!

Like halph said I would try to stick with Protools if I was you. From my experiences with recording with various software I just think Tools is much better.

The MPC could be replaced with software easy enough these days I feel.

And Mixing in the box really isn't a problem either.

Why don't you buy a 003 direct from the digistore?
If you got one of them and a Focusrite Octopre with the ADAT card then you could have potentially 16 recordable inputs with is plenty for a full band.

Instead of the 003 you could go the M-Audio Route and get the project mix which is an audio interface as well as a control surface.


what he says about the ADAT 16 extra in puts is a little known secret used in a lot of studios. you need a nice lacey a/d converter to complete it though.

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13-07-2009 09:04 Homepage of Halph-Price
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Seperate Hard disks for OS, recording, binaries & libraries

a must for building a stable DAW
13-07-2009 10:07
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And it's not gear, but I couldn't miss it for producing ANYTHING:

NI KOMPLETE 5


If you have this, it's the only instrument- and sample library you'll need imo.


I use it always. Photek and Herbie Hancock too Big Grin

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13-07-2009 10:17
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I think you could maybe do something with the speakers... with the sort of money you have to spend you may be able to afford some acoustic treatment (or improvise your own?)
I've been shopping for monitors myself, I decided on different ones to the HS50Ms, because although I hear they are good, the bass drops off like a stone at around 50hz, you might need to get a subwoofer to get the sub bass response needed for dnb and hip hop kinda stuff.

I personally couldnt afford the HS50Ms and their accompanying £410 subwoofer, so I think most likely I will be getting Adam A7s, which are fairly good in the bass end to begin with, and then add a subwoofer at some point in the future.
My rooms gonna be full of cushions and stuff to make improvised acoustic treatment, I just hope sub bass doesn't make my mattress ring too much :p

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