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In some Q&A i recently read, it said the mid bass in "Viperfish" (big tune) was actually a distorted kick drum loop. I usually just use a synth for all bass, but was wondering if you are using say a kick drum loop or another sample as a mid bass, how do you then layer a sine underneath, with the same dynamics and movement as the mid and get them to sound as one?

obviously you layer sub at the same pitch, but how do you then get it to alternate in pitch/volume with the sampled bass?


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12-07-2009 14:01
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i suppose u could even make a sub out of the mid bass layer by low passing it, eq, compression but really if you're going to do it separately u just need to manually create that movement in ur sub by for example automating the pitch, adjusting the lfo etc

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808 could be used for mid, if you distorted it, then again like kets said, just low pass it with no distortion, there's your sub. just need to find a nice acoustic kick to layer for the high part of it, done.

but with gabber kicks that's what you hear, is usually spereated 2 808, with the mid one being run through guitar distortion, and then there's another that's just pure sub, and you get best of both worlds, nice distortion and clear bass.

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the mid bass is the easiest to make because the harmonics are already there, no need to boost them too much or filter out, so no need for too much processign as if youre making a sub out of a voice or hihats out of bongo hits.

obviously a lot of processing is required but you can retain much of the original sound it was in there

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I solved this in a very weird way in a track.

I loaded a 3xOsc (very simple FL studio synth) and made it play a sub note which would go on for ever. Linked it to a mixer channel and set the volume slider to zero.

Next I set up the mid bass to another channe.

I grouped both of these instruments (using a layer).

I played the melody on the layer instrument, so the sub and the mids would get the same notes.

Then I automated the volume slider to be linked to the signal of the mid bass. Tada.

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I solved this in a very weird way in a track.

I loaded a 3xOsc (very simple FL studio synth) and made it play a sub note which would go on for ever. Linked it to a mixer channel and set the volume slider to zero.

Next I set up the mid bass to another channe.

I grouped both of these instruments (using a layer).

I played the melody on the layer instrument, so the sub and the mids would get the same notes.

Then I automated the volume slider to be linked to the signal of the mid bass. Tada.





so did you manually draw in the volume of the sub? i cant imagine how else to do this...

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Sub had compression and a limiter on it.

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He meant about the connection between the sub and the volume slider of the bass. I am interested in this too, as I always did this with LFO.

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yeah that is what i meant

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also, you said that there will be some sub in the sampled mid which you can use as a sub.... I dont think you will get a very powerful mid from a sampled mid layer, hence why you need to layer with a sine or summin

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*dont think you will get a strong SUB from a mid layer that is

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*dont think you will get a strong SUB from a mid layer that is


well u can make a strong sub out of a mid layer man, just gta process accordingly, low pass, low eq boost if necessary and compress, the low eq boost will bring out the sub frequencies more

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quote:
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*dont think you will get a strong SUB from a mid layer that is


just twitter it.

or is it tweet it, in verb form...?

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listen to Glass Eye by Ed Rush & Optical...got that idea going on...not a really prominent bass line but more sub bass from the heavy ass kicks. bitch (had to put that in there)

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