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Are there any good programs anyone knows about that I can type all the notes of a riff I've just played in, and it will tell me what key the riff is in?

preferably a free one for macs would be good! thanks

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17-06-2009 13:08
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eyes and ears Big Grin just put all the notes on top of each other next to your melody in this order, key, tone, key, semitone, key , tone, key, tone, key, semitone, key, tone, key, tone. so you will have a midi not on all of the following keys, D,E,F,G,A,A*,C,D. this is a d minor scale
then just highlight all of these notes and transpose them up or down till your melody fits into the scale. whatever the bottom key is on will be you keyscale Wink
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there are websites that can show you different scales and chords on a keyboard, so you could use that to determine what key you have used. not automatic but still useful here is alink to one i find useful

http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm
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completely agree on this Happy

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guitar pro can do this pretty good, since you don't need to save anything in guitar pro you can just use the shareware version. it allows input through tablature writing, midi file, clicking the notes on a guitar neck / piano keys, so it will do.
Also it's very handy to find out how some tunes are played, there's tons of Guitar Pro files on http://www.ultimate-guitar.com

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pianoworld all the way http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm

you type in a chord it will invert it for you even. very useful to find different sounding chords of the same nature.

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in this order, key, tone, key, semitone, key , tone, key, tone, key, semitone, key, tone, key, tone. so you will have a midi not on all of the following keys, D,E,F,G,A,A*,C,D. this is a d minor scale
then just highlight all of these notes and transpose them up or down till your melody fits into the scale. whatever the bottom key is on will be you keyscale Wink




what do you mean in this order, key, tone, semitone, key tone?

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29-06-2009 16:51
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You mean:

see a pattern in something random?

there will be algoritms available that give you "a" solution of what it "could" be;

but in fact your random notes could be in "whatever" key;


It's more interesting to study some (really, you don't need much!) music theory and simply improvise on your "chord". This would mean you don't need to look up 'a' possible solution given from a program, you just got a step further as elektronic music producer.

The possible solution the program gives you, will be right, but in most cases there will be a zillion other soultions for your chord too, which I haven't seen in any software yet. Wolfram Alpha comes close to this, but that's it I think ...(correct me if im wrong)

Also, creating a cool dissonant with such a program is unexistant...

If you want to be limited (in chord progression / harmonics): use a program

If not: read a bit about music theory, music is to cool to let a program decide which chord must be used...
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tried to tell these guys, look at Note Intervals, and how every note in a scale or not even in a scale, in whats called a chromatic scale (which is every note on the piano) you just find out how those relate and you can understand how every scale will sound.

also, this thread is covered here already.

Chord progression tool

i went to town explaining intervals and chords here...

Chords/music theory

this one i describe the darkest scale possible and WHY it's so dark explaining the intervals again

Scales


this link has a chart under the Just Interval section showing the relations of notes if you understand that minor sounds sad, major sounds happy, and perfect/unison/octaves sound strong and resolved. with this, you can just pick 2 notes and know without playing them, how they'll sound together. how to make them fit with the next notes is the trick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics

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