Originally posted by Greyone google/youtube :
I know what i saw (documentary 2009)
Apollo-14-astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell
Nikola Tesla
The Bob White Object
HAARP
Disclosure project
...
Nine months after the inauguration of a new and potentially transformative American President, we await significant progress on official Disclosure on the UFO/ET subject. While the UK, France, Denmark, Brazil and other countries around the world have increasingly opened their official government files, the US is found lagging behind her sister nations.
This is, in large part, because - up until now - the President has been denied access to such files. The so-called Majestic group illegally compartmentalized their secret operations away from Presidential and Congressional oversight. This secret, satellite government, which is transnational and answers only to itself, must now answer to the people and to this new President.
As you can see from the attached summary of the Special Presidential Briefing (SPB) that we have provided to the President and to his senior military and intelligence team, the full Briefing contains detailed information on the projects, project code numbers, names, corporations, locations etc., associated with the UFO/ET subject. (The full briefing is too lengthy to release at this time.) In short, the President now has the key information that he needs to act. The President must now engage in executive action to oversee, control, and direct these operations for the benefit of the American people and the world.
This SPB has also been provided to the head of state of at least one G7 country, senior members of Congress, and other key government officials via known and reliable points of contact (POCs) directly to these leaders.
Now it is time for we, the people, to be heard! Please write to these leaders and ask that they act NOW, as they are sworn to do, on our behalf. Please write to the President, to your two US Senators, and to your member of Congress and ask:
* That President Obama investigate the matter, gain proper control over these operations, end for once and forever the secrecy surrounding the UFO subject, and work with other nations to quickly coordinate an official Disclosure;
* That President Obama stand-down any covert offensive targeting of ET spacecraft;
* That President Obama, working with other leaders around the world, initiate open, peaceful Contact with these Extraterrestrial Civilizations;
* That President Obama move swiftly to release the Earth-saving new energy technologies contained within these illegal covert Majestic programs so that we may be freed from the death grip that oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy have on the planet;
* That the Congress hold open, secrecy-free hearings on these matters immediately.
If you are or know of a reliable, bona fide POC to a member of Congress, or other senior government official in the US or other country, who would like the full Briefing, please let us know.
The President was elected with the vision of transformative change. Nothing would so transform the world as the ending of this secrecy, peaceful open contact with the Extraterrestrial Civilizations visiting Earth and the release of these wondrous new energy technologies for peaceful energy generation. In just a few years, the world will be made anew.
Thank you for acting NOW to ensure the good future that most assuredly awaits humanity.
Steven M. Greer, MD
Director
CSETI and The Disclosure Project
"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."
Robert F. Kennedy 1966 Speech
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."
Albert Einstein
Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence
Since the mid-1950s, classified projects connected to extraterrestrial matters have operated outside of constitutionally required oversight and control by the President and Congress. This constitutes a grave and ongoing threat to US national security and global security and peace.
The implications of this subject are such that no aspect of life on Earth will be unaffected by its Disclosure. We are acutely aware that this subject is highly controversial and suffers from great social opprobrium within certain elite circles and within the mainstream media.
Indeed, secrecy on the subject has, in part, been maintained by a carefully orchestrated psychological nexus of ridicule, fear, intimidation and disinformation that makes it difficult for any public figure to openly address the matter.
Moreover, the 'bubble' of security and access restrictions that surround the Office of the President makes it very difficult for POTUS to receive accurate information and advice on the subject. The consequences of this secrecy, combined with the psychological aspects mentioned above, have ensured that none of your predecessors have been able to effectively manage this problem. This has led to an unacknowledged crisis that will be the greatest of your Presidency.
Because of this misguided secrecy, the wondrous new sciences related to advanced energy generation, propulsion and transportation have been withheld from the people. These advances include the generation of limitless clean energy from the so-called zero point energy field and quantum vacuum flux field from the space around us, and propulsion that has been termed (incorrectly) anti-gravity. The field of electromagnetic energy that is teeming all around us and which is embedded within the fabric of space/time can easily run all of the energy needs of the Earth - without pollution, oil, gas, coal, centralized utilities or nuclear power.
The disclosure of these sciences and their wise application during your first term as President is the most pressing matter before you. These sciences will create a true new energy economy allowing mankind to solve our most pressing problems of global warming, poverty and resource depletion.
The constellation of problems that include global warming, biosphere degradation, air pollution, energy security, Mid-East policy, a collapsing geo-economic order, growing disparity between the poor and rich of the world, over-population and human sustainability on Earth, to name but a few, are all interconnected and directly affected by the secrecy surrounding this subject. The solutions lie not in old thinking and technologies but in a new consciousness applying new sciences. These sciences were born in the late 19th and 20th centuries but were abandoned and suppressed due to the lust for power, greed and out of fear of unsettling the status quo.
It is time for a new Emancipation Declaration - one that frees all of humanity from the shackles of economic slavery that results from secret centralized power, corruption and global economic hegemony. The world will not find justice and peace so long as half of the world's population lives in poverty while the other half cannibalizes the Earth to maintain its standard of living. This dire situation can and must be transformed into a world of abundance, clean and plentiful energy and genuine sustainability. On this foundation, with these new sciences, technologies and a new consciousness, we can move forward as a people, united and in peace. Then and only then will we be welcome amongst the other civilizations of the cosmos.
That we are not alone in the universe is now a scientific given. That we have been visited already by advanced civilizations - whose interests here are likely ancient - is controversial. However, in my discussions with European, Vatican, Canadian and other leaders around the world, a growing consensus exists that we have been visited and the time for disclosing this information is long past due. More importantly, an appropriate diplomatic initiative is needed to communicate with these extraterrestrial visitors within a framework of universal peace, free from the past dominance of militarism and paranoia.
Insofar as upwards of 80% of the American people think that 'UFOs' are real, and that some aspect of the government is lying to them about it, continued secrecy redounds only to the benefit of the precious few who profit from such secrecy. This secrecy undermines the credibility of the US and other governments, and allows the cancer of unchecked covert power - forewarned by President Eisenhower in his last address to the nation - to metastasize throughout the world. It now threatens the very life of Earth.
Moreover, there exists a secret, 'unacknowledged' operation that has used very advanced electromagnetic weapon systems to track, target, and on occasion, but with increasing accuracy, down extraterrestrial vehicles. This reckless behavior constitutes an existential threat to all of mankind and must be reined in immediately.
The so-called MJ-12 or Majestic group that controls this subject operates without the consent of the people, or the oversight of the President and Congress. It functions as a transnational government unto itself, answerable to no one. All checks and balances have been obliterated. While as a governing entity it stands outside of the rule of law, its influence reaches into many governments, corporations, agencies, media and financial interests. Its corrupting influence is profound and, indeed, it has operated as a very powerful and embedded global RICO whose power to date remains unchecked.
Upwards of $100 billion of USG funds go annually into this operation, also known as the 'black budget' of the United States - enough to provide universal health care to every man, woman and child in America.
When I first briefed Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey on this matter in December of 1993, only a third of this governing group was in favor of what we were recommending: Disclosure of the fact that we are not alone in the universe and the careful release of advanced energy generation systems that would replace oil, gas, coal and nuclear power. Sources now inform me that upwards of two-thirds of this group now support such an initiative.
Interests in Europe, the Vatican and Asia, especially France and China, are urging Disclosure. If the United States does not move forward, these other interests will, and America will be left behind and become increasingly irrelevant in the world. This cannot be allowed to happen.
The European and Asian arenas will move with or without US involvement at some point in the very near future, as well they should. Six decades of secrecy is enough.
We are also morally obliged to warn you of an existing highly secretive plan to use advanced technologies to hoax an 'alien attack' on Earth. There exists within the direct control of this Majestic group assets capable of launching such a false flag operation and virtually every person on Earth, as well as most leaders, would be deceived by it. Components of this operation have been tested on the public over the past 50 years and include, but are not limited to:
* Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) - these are advanced anti-gravity aircraft that have been fully operational since at least the late 1950s to early 1960s. Many so-called UFO reports by civilians and military personnel are of such ARVs. They constitute an unacknowledged or 'black' Air Force and these ARVs are capable of extraordinary speed, maneuverability and lift/hover. By 2009, these technologies had gone through many generations of refinement and, if deployed, could easily hoax or simulate an Extraterrestrial Vehicle (ETV). (Note that a UFO is a nonspecific term and could be either an ARV or an ETV.)
* Programmed Life Forms (PLFs) - these are well-crafted alien-appearing creatures that, while completely manmade, often deceive unknowing people as 'aliens'. The stagecraft, genetics and other sciences associated with these creatures are beyond the scope of this brief, but are very well developed. I have personally been briefed by multiple independent corroborating sources regarding the development and deployment of PLFs. These creatures, used in conjunction with ARVs, have convincingly launched the pop culture fervor over 'alien abductions'. Victims of such paramilitary human-controlled abductions genuinely believe that they have been abducted by 'aliens' and often have physical stigmata and 'implants' to prove it. These implants are also manmade and we have information about the laboratory and corporation making these items. (See attached documents)
* Chemical, optical and electromagnetic systems to assist with creating an alteration in awareness are components of the 'stagecraft' used to hoax an 'alien' event.
The vast majority of information in the public domain on the UFO subject is, therefore, carefully orchestrated disinformation designed to prepare the populace, as well as our leaders, for a non-existent 'alien threat'. The psychological warfare implications of this were described in the 1950s in CIA documents and are further elucidated by other documents and testimony. No less a figure than Wernher Von Braun warned of this cosmic deception.
The objective of such a false flag operation is the creation of an enemy in space that would unite the world behind a global military power against such an 'alien threat'. President Reagan and other leaders have been targeted with such disinformation, which is designed to secure their silence or cooperation with the agenda of secrecy and space weaponization. The President needs to be careful to avoid being similarly deceived.
After very careful review of all data and documents and after interviewing hundreds of top secret witnesses, we have concluded that the actual extraterrestrial presence is distinctly non-hostile. In light of the reckless and aggressive nature of many of our covert military actions and the extraordinarily advanced technologies that permit interstellar travel by these extraterrestrial civilizations, if they were hostile, human civilization would have been dealt with decisively at the dawn of the nuclear era.
These visitors, however, appear to be very concerned with unchecked human hostility, war-making and weapons of mass destruction, combined with our early potential for space travel. The tendency for people to engage in anthropocentric projection leads many to assume a threat where none exists. It is more likely that humanity may be seen as a threat to the cosmic order, insofar as we have failed to restrain the expansion of weapons of mass destruction while attempting to push farther and farther into space. Moreover, we have failed to initiate an enlightened and peaceful diplomatic mission to these extraterrestrial visitors. This needs to change immediately.
Disclosure of this subject must be very carefully planned and positioned as a hopeful and elevating moment in human history. A poorly positioned Disclosure that demonizes these visitors or frightens the public may prove more harmful than secrecy.
As you may know, my uncle was the senior project engineer who worked on the Lunar Module that took Neil Armstrong to the moon. The reason we were not welcome in space then is because the passport to traverse the universe is a stable peaceful world civilization that will go into space united and in peace.
In this regard, world peace and universal peace are two sides of the same coin. Once we vow to live peacefully on Earth and go into space only in peace, we will be welcome with open arms. Until then, a type of cosmic quarantine exists - rightly - around the Earth.
Unfortunately, the media and movie industry are highly penetrated by interests loyal to the Majestic group, which has used the media to, in turns, ridicule the subject and present terrifying images of 'alien invasion'. In short, the populace is almost thoroughly brainwashed on the matter, and this presents a further hurdle that must be carefully taken into account when planning Disclosure.
Nevertheless, the status quo can no longer hold and fundamental change is urgently needed. To this end, we urge the President to undertake a number of initiatives as soon as possible. We recommend that the President:
* Appoint a Special Presidential Task Force to investigate this matter, identify covert facilities and assets (see attached summary) and reassert Executive control over these projects;
* Identify and immediately stand-down operations that are covertly targeting Extraterrestrial Vehicles, weaponizing space and engaging in rogue disinformation projects;
* Develop response plans to minimize the risks related to potential false flag operations that intend to hoax a hostile 'alien' presence, including preparations with military, intelligence and international institutions;
* Form The Council on Interplanetary Relations to coordinate a peaceful, forward looking and non-militarized response to the extraterrestrial presence. The Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (see www.CSETI.org) has an 18 year ongoing project to establish such contact and can assist with this process. CSETI, working with other governments and world figures, will form such a Council if the US government decides not to do so within the next 12 months;
* Immediately fund the study, development and careful release of those new energy technologies that can quickly replace fossil fuels and nuclear power. (See www.TheOrionProject.org). Note that these technologies, since they acquire energy from the zero point energy field of space/time, will allow for the retirement of the electric energy grid. We are in possession of documents and information regarding key facilities and assets connected to these technologies (see attached documents). We recommend that the propulsion and transportation aspects of these technologies (electro-magneto-gravitic systems) be released at a later time when the world security situation has improved;
* Establish high-ranking liaisons with Congress, the UN and other governments to coordinate these projects and the release of the new energy technologies;
* The National Security Council needs to form a section specifically addressing the international, interplanetary and macroeconomic implications of this disclosure and urgently prepare for the release of these technologies;
The Orion Project (www.TheOrionProject.org) has identified key scientists to assist with the development of these new energy technologies. They have agreed to work with us, but are being prevented from doing so, one by a compartmented operation (TS SCI) to which he is assigned. We request an action by the Office of the President to specifically permit them to work with us with the full support and protection of the President. We cannot over-emphasize how important it is that these people be assigned to this critical task: In less than 1 year, we would have new energy generators developed to run America free from oil, gas, coal or nuclear power.
President Obama, we stand ready to assist you and your Administration with these and other tasks, and pledge to you our full support. I will personally fulfill any request from your office with the utmost integrity, discretion and confidentiality.
Please be assured of my heartfelt prayers on your behalf for your guidance, protection and success as you begin your historic role as President of the United States.
Respectfully,
Steven M. Greer, MD
Director
The Disclosure Project
Well i have been looking further into this, and have been a little ignorant tbh
, i have read that the sumarian civilization, that originate from Iraq and are the oldest civilization known to have existed at 6000 years ago. knew the exact layout of the solar system and is shown as having one more planet, which is not yet confirmed as existing by western space programs. However many people are coming forward stating that they have already identified this planet as existing and that it is the reason for increased erratic behavior in the weather etc, because of the huge gravitation pull this planet is believed to have. this has been kept quiet by government officials as they are afraid of an epidemic and a mass panic. but it is not yet known for sure what the effect of this planet coming into the cycles of our solar system. This planet, named via the ancient name the sumarians gave to it "nibiru" does a 3600 orbit of the sun and is also thought to be the same planet that collided with earth (anciently known as Tiamat, and thought to be previously situated between mars and jupiter) and created what is now earth, the moon and the asteroid belt. what intrigues me is that the knowledge of the whole solar system was known so long ago, and yet this is only just being found out now to our scientists. This planet was propelled on an orbit that comes into our solar system for a small percentage of its orbit and then out of it by a huge distance for the most part.
This led me to keep looking into it and i found some interesting discussions not only on "nibiru" but also extra terrestrial beings and neighboring galaxies and dimensions, which in turn led me to testimonials of a few men and researchers whom i had not heard of up until this point, the first one was zecharia sitchin who is a historian and a scholar of the study of Hebrew, this guy is the man studying Sumerian and Babylonian civilizations (both of which are from iraq in a similar time period) he is also quite deep on a very different view which you could consider quite extreme, but he is basically of the belief that we were created by extra terrestrials which were a species named the "annunaki" from what i understand this isnt a religious thing more that these are our creators and that they are alien in origin.
Then i came across a man called bob dean, this man is also a big believer on the annunaki, but insists there are 4 main species of beings including humans in existence in our solar system. He also does a cool discussion on "anomalies" pictured on the appollo missions, which i know greyone has posted some links for,
after watching this and a lot of individual interviews with this guy i came across another name.
Henry deacon appears at the end of the film which bob dean gives the talk. now initially i thought this man was a complete off the wall lunatic, but his claims of visiting mars interested me. a man would have to be insane to make that sort of claim right
. but i looked into more of what he says and found a scripted interview with him talking about all of his work for the government in various fields of specialty and found it a quite spectacular read.
this is a truly spectacular read and whether its valid or not i doubt will be proved in our lifetime unless there are issues as deep as hes mentioned, this interview goes into a bit of detail about government space operations and extra terrestrials "helping" to solve problems caused by a time rift which were results of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear blasts. there's also a few links to various information sites regarding experimentation and testing done in space etc.
if this has already been posted my apologies
just found the whole thing quite interesting.
EDIT:
a lot of what i have been reading places a lot of attention on Sumeria and Babylon (iraq) which seems to have a lot more history than i ever knew of, it is believed to be the origin of every world leader, members of royalty, president, prime minister, pharaohs of egypt, every leader and ruler of every civilization is believed to have originated from this deeply holy land. there is also supposedly a star-gate there which is in a highly restricted area guarded by an elite section of the un, i don't know how much truth there is to this but its repeatedly mentioned by sitchin and jordan maxwell. it really strikes me as odd that this is all coming to light whilst american and brittish forces are occupying iraq, i know that conspiracy theorys are all about connecting the dots etc, but have a look for info on sumeria and babylon and its really quite amazing all thats happened there. the secret societys which are believed to be in control are thought to have been originally part of a larger faction that was situated in babylon later known as Mesopotamia and broke up into smaller sections which are now thought to have become the illuminati, the knights of malta and various other factions which are in existence. its all quite a lot of stuff to be a coincidence imo so some of this must be fact, it really makes you think about the real reasons we are occupying this land. as there is quite a lot going on there.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by demure: 08-01-2010 21:51.
Originally posted by demure
it really makes you think about the real reasons we are occupying this land. as there is quite a lot going on there.
ffs, youre talking is approval of invasion. in the way you say "we", as if youre somehow part of it? there are no nationalities anymore except for folklore, flags and history. today corporations rule, and the US military is but a tool of those corporations.
Originally posted by demure
it really makes you think about the real reasons we are occupying this land. as there is quite a lot going on there.
ffs, youre talking is approval of invasion. in the way you say "we", as if youre somehow part of it? there are no nationalities anymore except for folklore, flags and history. today corporations rule, and the US military is but a tool of those corporations.
no need to get irate about it, i say we because i have freinds and family in afganistan and iraq, its a term of speach and if you look it up the people in control are not in iraq. just the general population fighting in the war there. i think you should chill out a bit mate. i posted what i found out because i thought it might be of interest to people not so it could be picked at, attacked and misinterpreted.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by demure: 09-01-2010 11:47.
no i have family and friends who are in iraq as part of the army, i have a lot of Kurdish friends from iraq also, and i described we not because of nationality. im talking about we as in people who i know who have had to fight in this bullshit war which i dont condone for one minute, like i said before, the subject and other peoples input into this thread interested me so i thought i would look into it and found some interesting information is all. i am not forcing this onto anyone. i will read your article.
Originally posted by cynik
shit, man, I totally misunderstood you
dont worry about it, i just read the article, some interesting stuff, although i have known stuff like this was going on for a while now. i will look more into what i found as i got a few more names of interest who are highly knowlegable on ancient civilizations and stuff. will have a snoop and post what i find.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by demure: 09-01-2010 17:27.
Originally posted by demure
Well i have been looking further into this, and have been a little ignorant tbh
, i have read that the sumarian civilization, that originate from Iraq and are the oldest civilization known to have existed at 6000 years ago. knew the exact layout of the solar system and is shown as having one more planet, which is not yet confirmed as existing by western space programs. However many people are coming forward stating that they have already identified this planet as existing and that it is the reason for increased erratic behavior in the weather etc, because of the huge gravitation pull this planet is believed to have. this has been kept quiet by government officials as they are afraid of an epidemic and a mass panic. but it is not yet known for sure what the effect of this planet coming into the cycles of our solar system. This planet, named via the ancient name the sumarians gave to it "nibiru" does a 3600 orbit of the sun and is also thought to be the same planet that collided with earth (anciently known as Tiamat, and thought to be previously situated between mars and jupiter) and created what is now earth, the moon and the asteroid belt. what intrigues me is that the knowledge of the whole solar system was known so long ago, and yet this is only just being found out now to our scientists. This planet was propelled on an orbit that comes into our solar system for a small percentage of its orbit and then out of it by a huge distance for the most part.
This led me to keep looking into it and i found some interesting discussions not only on "nibiru" but also extra terrestrial beings and neighboring galaxies and dimensions, which in turn led me to testimonials of a few men and researchers whom i had not heard of up until this point, the first one was zecharia sitchin who is a historian and a scholar of the study of Hebrew, this guy is the man studying Sumerian and Babylonian civilizations (both of which are from iraq in a similar time period) he is also quite deep on a very different view which you could consider quite extreme, but he is basically of the belief that we were created by extra terrestrials which were a species named the "annunaki" from what i understand this isnt a religious thing more that these are our creators and that they are alien in origin.
Then i came across a man called bob dean, this man is also a big believer on the annunaki, but insists there are 4 main species of beings including humans in existence in our solar system. He also does a cool discussion on "anomalies" pictured on the appollo missions, which i know greyone has posted some links for,
after watching this and a lot of individual interviews with this guy i came across another name.
Henry deacon appears at the end of the film which bob dean gives the talk. now initially i thought this man was a complete off the wall lunatic, but his claims of visiting mars interested me. a man would have to be insane to make that sort of claim right
. but i looked into more of what he says and found a scripted interview with him talking about all of his work for the government in various fields of specialty and found it a quite spectacular read.
this is a truly spectacular read and whether its valid or not i doubt will be proved in our lifetime unless there are issues as deep as hes mentioned, this interview goes into a bit of detail about government space operations and extra terrestrials "helping" to solve problems caused by a time rift which were results of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear blasts. there's also a few links to various information sites regarding experimentation and testing done in space etc.
if this has already been posted my apologies
just found the whole thing quite interesting.
EDIT:
a lot of what i have been reading places a lot of attention on Sumeria and Babylon (iraq) which seems to have a lot more history than i ever knew of, it is believed to be the origin of every world leader, members of royalty, president, prime minister, pharaohs of egypt, every leader and ruler of every civilization is believed to have originated from this deeply holy land. there is also supposedly a star-gate there which is in a highly restricted area guarded by an elite section of the un, i don't know how much truth there is to this but its repeatedly mentioned by sitchin and jordan maxwell. it really strikes me as odd that this is all coming to light whilst american and brittish forces are occupying iraq, i know that conspiracy theorys are all about connecting the dots etc, but have a look for info on sumeria and babylon and its really quite amazing all thats happened there. the secret societys which are believed to be in control are thought to have been originally part of a larger faction that was situated in babylon later known as Mesopotamia and broke up into smaller sections which are now thought to have become the illuminati, the knights of malta and various other factions which are in existence. its all quite a lot of stuff to be a coincidence imo so some of this must be fact, it really makes you think about the real reasons we are occupying this land. as there is quite a lot going on there.
i found this out :S the soviet unions coat of arms or state arms, was based around an age old symbol and phrase that has been used time and time again throughout history and is synonymous with communism in general, this is something i have just been watching and its quite mad, basically there are a few things which are linked here. first is the sun rising between the mountains, this symbol has been used for century after century by communist groups and ideals according to Jordan Maxwell. then there is the eagle, the eagle is considered another form of depicting the sun or the suns brother you could say, Maxwell claims the eagle is used so much in important symbol because it is all seeing from a great height and is undetected, watching over its prey with razor sharp vision from a huge distance now i dunno the whole ins and outs but just look at the following symbols. what the hell is a democratic country doing using the same symbolism as the Nazis and communist Russia and fascist italy, the very same social structures that have been put under intense scrutiny by the west via propaganda stating that they should be feared and are dangerous.
Originally posted by demure
Well i have been looking further into this, and have been a little ignorant tbh
, i have read that the sumarian civilization, that originate from Iraq and are the oldest civilization known to have existed at 6000 years ago. knew the exact layout of the solar system and is shown as having one more planet, which is not yet confirmed as existing by western space programs. However many people are coming forward stating that they have already identified this planet as existing and that it is the reason for increased erratic behavior in the weather etc, because of the huge gravitation pull this planet is believed to have. this has been kept quiet by government officials as they are afraid of an epidemic and a mass panic. but it is not yet known for sure what the effect of this planet coming into the cycles of our solar system. This planet, named via the ancient name the sumarians gave to it "nibiru" does a 3600 orbit of the sun and is also thought to be the same planet that collided with earth (anciently known as Tiamat, and thought to be previously situated between mars and jupiter) and created what is now earth, the moon and the asteroid belt. what intrigues me is that the knowledge of the whole solar system was known so long ago, and yet this is only just being found out now to our scientists. This planet was propelled on an orbit that comes into our solar system for a small percentage of its orbit and then out of it by a huge distance for the most part.
This led me to keep looking into it and i found some interesting discussions not only on "nibiru" but also extra terrestrial beings and neighboring galaxies and dimensions, which in turn led me to testimonials of a few men and researchers whom i had not heard of up until this point, the first one was zecharia sitchin who is a historian and a scholar of the study of Hebrew, this guy is the man studying Sumerian and Babylonian civilizations (both of which are from iraq in a similar time period) he is also quite deep on a very different view which you could consider quite extreme, but he is basically of the belief that we were created by extra terrestrials which were a species named the "annunaki" from what i understand this isnt a religious thing more that these are our creators and that they are alien in origin.
Then i came across a man called bob dean, this man is also a big believer on the annunaki, but insists there are 4 main species of beings including humans in existence in our solar system. He also does a cool discussion on "anomalies" pictured on the appollo missions, which i know greyone has posted some links for,
after watching this and a lot of individual interviews with this guy i came across another name.
Henry deacon appears at the end of the film which bob dean gives the talk. now initially i thought this man was a complete off the wall lunatic, but his claims of visiting mars interested me. a man would have to be insane to make that sort of claim right
. but i looked into more of what he says and found a scripted interview with him talking about all of his work for the government in various fields of specialty and found it a quite spectacular read.
this is a truly spectacular read and whether its valid or not i doubt will be proved in our lifetime unless there are issues as deep as hes mentioned, this interview goes into a bit of detail about government space operations and extra terrestrials "helping" to solve problems caused by a time rift which were results of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear blasts. there's also a few links to various information sites regarding experimentation and testing done in space etc.
if this has already been posted my apologies
just found the whole thing quite interesting.
EDIT:
a lot of what i have been reading places a lot of attention on Sumeria and Babylon (iraq) which seems to have a lot more history than i ever knew of, it is believed to be the origin of every world leader, members of royalty, president, prime minister, pharaohs of egypt, every leader and ruler of every civilization is believed to have originated from this deeply holy land. there is also supposedly a star-gate there which is in a highly restricted area guarded by an elite section of the un, i don't know how much truth there is to this but its repeatedly mentioned by sitchin and jordan maxwell. it really strikes me as odd that this is all coming to light whilst american and brittish forces are occupying iraq, i know that conspiracy theorys are all about connecting the dots etc, but have a look for info on sumeria and babylon and its really quite amazing all thats happened there. the secret societys which are believed to be in control are thought to have been originally part of a larger faction that was situated in babylon later known as Mesopotamia and broke up into smaller sections which are now thought to have become the illuminati, the knights of malta and various other factions which are in existence. its all quite a lot of stuff to be a coincidence imo so some of this must be fact, it really makes you think about the real reasons we are occupying this land. as there is quite a lot going on there.
good !
well we live in interesting times ennit ))
HaHa I guess Douglas Adams who wrote the 5 part trilogy of Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy got his idea for his 4th book from this as he states that Humans on this particular planet are in fact a race of defect aliens that got packed onto a spaceship and shot out into space on a rather sudden and unknown secret mission of which none of the crew members of the ship got told about ...
They eventually crash land into a planet and decide to take up home there (also mentioned is how they have a fondness for video cameras and making daft bloody decisions
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People should read Hitchikers series as they are quite good and relevant to these times considering they were wrote quite a good while ago.
Also another good book to source is "The Creatures of Man" that is many short stories he published into sci-fi magazines in the mid 50's to early 70's & are compiled into this book by Eric Flint.
The author in question is Howard L. Myers who wrote under the pseudonym of "Verge Foray"
I think if you find this book online or in a store you'll see how relevant it is to today.
Especially the short 3 part econo-war story.
the most important part of this 'ufo, science & truth' is that you look up things for yourself , not only in mainstream media but everywhere , compare the results , look around , ask questions , think about your life and others , just stand still and realise and then go and find your path in life and do what you think is the best.
my personal belief in the 3 subjects:
UFO: i believe Nasa and other space agencies know about their (extraterestrial) existence for a long time and deny it to the public, most of the satelites in space are from US origin and they are the only country that refused to sign the contract of anti-weaponisation of space.. they might have reverse-engineered some UFO tech or they are just so 'smart ..' to make their own. Extraterestrials do exist , and we are on the edge of our own destruction of what we realy are, without realisation and change in conciousness 'this' will continue till a point of no return. Anyway ...
Science: technology on the public market is allready 5 to 10 years old , cures for diseases are allready made , and most of it is in corporate hands... and about nature, in stead of looking how nature is dying , they should better repair it .
Truth: we are dependent and addicted to our luxury and money and ideals so much we accept everything from media corporations and governments (even if you blame it you are still part of it), war seems natural and 1on3 persons getting cancer too... , middle class works pays & dies with the eyes shut , how can't you see and do something about it or at least tell about it..
what is truth of what we are been told ? a big joke ? facts ? unknown ? lies ? 90% truth ? 60% truth ? 40% .. or just 20% real truth ))
learn understand search live life question reconsider discuss have fun and realise
how has money affected us since we were kids , how has the country we were born affected us , what have u learned up to now of life , how do you want to live your life ? how can you live your life like you want , what has to change , what is neccesary , what is redundant...
travel , take your backback , leave it all for a while and just go ...
survive and get away as far as possible , and you will know (extreme)
as of now Albanians currently making an approximate 20% in Macedonia (or FYROM) are threatening war if they are not to be recognised as a constitutional nation in Macedonia. bet you wont find this in any established western media. that is but another in a wave of threats albanians issued in this month in Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia, all parts of neighboring states they infested in pursuit of their "Greater Albania". at each region they are keen to use the same pressure and terror they succesfully used in the Kosovo scenario. trouble is, will this time there be NATO to help their warmongery? I hope not, let us see what they are when they are left on their own, I bet theyd get their asses kicked. hang on Macedonian brothers!
, i have read that the sumarian civilization, that originate from Iraq and are the oldest civilization known to have existed at 6000 years ago. knew the exact layout of the solar system and is shown as having one more planet, which is not yet confirmed as existing by western space programs. However many people are coming forward stating that they have already identified this planet as existing and that it is the reason for increased erratic behavior in the weather etc, because of the huge gravitation pull this planet is believed to have. this has been kept quiet by government officials as they are afraid of an epidemic and a mass panic. but it is not yet known for sure what the effect of this planet coming into the cycles of our solar system. This planet, named via the ancient name the sumarians gave to it "nibiru" does a 3600 orbit of the sun and is also thought to be the same planet that collided with earth (anciently known as Tiamat, and thought to be previously situated between mars and jupiter) and created what is now earth, the moon and the asteroid belt. what intrigues me is that the knowledge of the whole solar system was known so long ago, and yet this is only just being found out now to our scientists. This planet was propelled on an orbit that comes into our solar system for a small percentage of its orbit and then out of it by a huge distance for the most part.
just found the whole thing quite interesting.
i found this out :S the soviet unions coat of arms or state arms, was based around an age old symbol and phrase that has been used time and time again throughout history and is synonymous with communism in general, this is something i have just been watching and its quite mad, basically there are a few things which are linked here. first is the sun rising between the mountains, this symbol has been used for century after century by communist groups and ideals according to Jordan Maxwell. then there is the eagle, the eagle is considered another form of depicting the sun or the suns brother you could say, Maxwell claims the eagle is used so much in important symbol because it is all seeing from a great height and is undetected, watching over its prey with razor sharp vision from a huge distance now i dunno the whole ins and outs but just look at the following symbols. what the hell is a democratic country doing using the same symbolism as the Nazis and communist Russia and fascist italy, the very same social structures that have been put under intense scrutiny by the west via propaganda stating that they should be feared and are dangerous. 
