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Muad'Dib 
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In my opinion, if you synth a sine wave, it will have no audible harmonics at all. Any harmonics that can come off should be from the mixer engine of your program or your speakers.
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20-05-2009 21:21 |
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Faulty synths 
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20-05-2009 21:27 |
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20-05-2009 21:42 |
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that is strange i was using a lowpass to get rid of clicks in massive when using a square wave on the lfo on the amp control with a sine wave bass....(still got your breath?) but is encouraging to know that other people get clicks also.
do you find massive is quite clicky and poppy? and the legato/glide doesnt work very well i find.
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21-05-2009 11:47 |
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Muad'Dib
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well no not really 
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Alright now, you wanna make a pure sine wave, and the synth shows it's synthing a pure sine wave, and it still has audible harmonics and distortions - and that's not a faulty synth?
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21-05-2009 12:11 |
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Alright now, you wanna make a pure sine wave, and the synth shows it's synthing a pure sine wave, and it still has audible harmonics and distortions - and that's not a faulty synth? |
Not really, an audio file will do the same if it doesn't start/end on a zero point.
Personally I'd use envelopes to stop them popping and clicking, but eq can work too.
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21-05-2009 14:12 |
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Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by Ghost
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
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well no not really
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Alright now, you wanna make a pure sine wave, and the synth shows it's synthing a pure sine wave, and it still has audible harmonics and distortions - and that's not a faulty synth? |
Of course not.
Most sine waves on synths are not actually PURE sine waves.
And just because a synths oscillators don't re-trigger every time you hit a note doesn't mean its faulty.
And anyway i never said about audible harmonics and distortions i was talking about clicks and pops which are neither.
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I didn't quite get the zero-point start issues in your conversation, so I kinda missed the point. I wrote a reply yesterday with the discovery of my confusion, but my net denied me posting it. :/
Gonna give the chip on quality control check - sometimes it makes me act strange.
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22-05-2009 11:23 |
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22-05-2009 12:06 |
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it's not a faulty synth, digital, or analog synths can do this, were they would interrupt a wave in mid oscillation. for subs, the oscillation is almost down to a cycle per second. you can almost hear them individually. I don't know of a synth that cut's off at zero point. actually with analog synths it can end it not as a type of squarewave but mroe like a triangle wave and even oscillate for a bit. it's just the size of the wave makes it an issue.
generally if you have a normal melody going on, that's above 1khz, you don't notice any stops that are non-zero point. but even if it's not an issue there's no reason you can't low-pass a sine wave if there's no other harmonics, maybe it's pointless, but if there is a click, at least no one will ever fucking believe you.
it's the same choice of doing this, or just not taking extra effort to mix your track and hope everything goes the way you want it to. i usually do fucke dup basslines so i don't want to hear the sine above 100hz, usually, so i'l have 2 eq's layerd on to increase how much it reduces it, just so when i take the basline on a trip up the octabes, it won't start screaming in a pure sine wave at 1khz like a TEST TONE from the emergency broadcast channels
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 23-05-2009 16:23.
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23-05-2009 16:21 |
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i think the clicks and pops are to do with notes ending/starting abruptly ie going from off to -6db for eg. you can minimise and somtimes compleatly erase them by adjusting your attack and release times, ie. make them longer, but most of the times spesh with sub you dont wana do this cos it can make your notes overlapp n sound nastie, best solution eq them lo-pass @ 100 for your sub also a sine wave does still give off SUM harmonics? i know this sounds wrong (to me anyway) but if you play a note you dont get a straght line at 50 hz for eg. do you, u get sum action above an below?
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