You can write good tunes on your mobile phone's speaker, if you know how tunes sound there and how it would sound on everyone else that are listening to it.
It is not the equipment, it is the man using it
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i remember using them headphones at college and they are good im no expert but what i have noticed when workin on phones is that you do need to check on speakers because the bottom end is always quite deceptive man
sometimes it appears that you have quite a lot of lows in your kicks etc then you put them on speakers and they may be harsh thats what i have found anyways. but those phones are good.
also stereo imgaing really does need to be checked on speakers too because panning can be hard to judge on phones because your ears are icolated causing it to sound a little unatural the best place to get advice though is sos
check some of the other headphone related topics
there are plugins you can that simulate speakers too mate 112db does one. also to my knowledge a dedicated headphone amp can give a much more true representation of your music so that might be worth considering anyways hope that helped a bit
there's no superior way - you need to listen the way everyone will listen to your tunes: so that means headphones, hifi equipment, but also pounding pop-music systems that are widely spread, all are deceptive in a way really;
I usually produce on headphones, and master on hifi equipment. I only have that available at home, so when at my student room the first mastering is usually done on decent pc-speakers, but not decent in a way that they'd give great bass (which means decent for the most common users)
on headphones just really watch out, your bass will sound deeper and better, your higher frequencies might sound anoying while producing on headphones, whereas you can end up having a mix without enough highs once you bring it to hifi or pc speakers...
I like alternating between headphones and monitors. I usually produce on monitors, but occasionally I listen my mix on headphones to see if everything ok.
i mix on headphones, and every now and again while mixing, i just unplug them from the laptop and listen to the shityty speakers blare the snare too loud and the bass too deep, fix it a bit, notice a certin synth isn't cutting through pull it up, and bam, great mix.
if it sounds good on a shitty speaker, it'll sound awesome on good ones.
i do not and will never get speakers that cost a lot of money... the car is the best i listen to it.
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
You can write good tunes on your mobile phone's speaker, if you know how tunes sound there and how it would sound on everyone else that are listening to it.
It is not the equipment, it is the man using it
Only to some extent: eg. you cannot make a good sub bass if your speakers frequency response starts from 100 Hz.
Originally posted by twixda
Just wondered if i could get some advice...Can you write good tunes on headphones? I have Beyer DT150's. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Tomos writes all his tunes on headphones only and they sound fantastic. It can be done, you really need to know how a well mixed/mastered tune sounds on those headphones and a lot depends on your ability to hear what is wrong.
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I do all 90% of my work on headphones and have done for about 4/5 years.
I love it really. I never produce on monitors, the only thing I use monitors for is checking my mix and I don't do that all that often.
But yeah like Techlogix said stereo imaging and bass can be a bit awkward to do on headphones but the more you get used to a pair then less those problems become.
The good things about cans is that they are very useful for checking reverb and delays as if you don't have very good monitors, its hard to hear the detail and amount of reverb in your mix and you could over do it.
Then when someone listens to it on headphones it sounds like its playing in a cave
well i've been using just headphones for quite some time now and ever since i got my senny hd280 pros coupled up with my soundcard its really helped me get a better representation of my sound, that said i still want to get my hands on some good monitor speakers particularly for bass response
Some good advice here already. Seems like this is an age old argument...
As alluded to above. Keep in mind that it usually pays to hear your tune on different equipment. I tend to alternate between headphones, laptop/tv and speakers. Also I get people to play my tunes when I am at their house. (people I know that is - I don't go into strangers houses and make them play my music)
If I had to pick one, it would be a pair of decent speakers. Only coz i like to hear the tune blaring out...
one down side to headphone mixes if you're not aware/careful.
you have speakers pressed against your ears. turn it down to a reasonable level.
plus side is, when shit goes CRAZY, and all of a sudden you got 5Khz sine wave playing at +3 past max dB, you can just rip the headphones off faster then if a fucking bat landed on your head.
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I always check my mixes on headphones afterwards, because they are true stereo. sometimes my panning is a bit crap sounding on headphones, so i adjust using headphones.
but as always, it is good to reference on speakers, but if you know the headphones well and they are good quality i guess its the same as using speakers really.
I think monitors are considered "professional", but they can be a detriment to your mixdown if you don't know what you're doing. Some things you need to consider when working with monitors are the position, level, and angle of the monitors in addition to the size of the room, shape and texture of the walls, and how all of these factors affect the characteristic of a sound. For example, if you have your monitors in a larger room, you could potentially have a certain amount of reverb on a signal that was actually fairly dry. You basically have to listen to all of your favourite tunes again and figure out how they sound on your monitors, in the position and room they're in, and re-learn how all of the DnB you like sounds on your new equipment.
But the same thing can be said for headphones. If you know how a well-produced track sounds on a pair of headphones you have, you can emulate to a certain extent the same kind of levels and EQing in your mixdown. However, I am of the opinion that finely shaping your sounds and figuring out how much headroom you have in a mix can be pretty difficult on headphones. I'm sure you can do more detailed and technical mixdowns with monitors, you need only take into account more variables than simply whether you're producing track on headphones or on monitors.
If I had my living situation set up for monitors, I would buy them - but as it, I stick with headphones. And, although I have a lot to learn about production (that's why I'm here
), my production skills have improved tremendously just using headphones - I think you can always get better as a producer producing on shoddy equipment, and when you're good enough to where you can get tunes signed, switch over to monitors if you'd like and start doing more professional stuff with your mixing, or just pay to get it mastered. Like Muad'Dib said, in electronic music it always depends on what you do with what you have, not just what you have.
well i agree here because my speakers cost 6 pounds for the pair from cash generator
and i also bought the cans for a tenner at the same time cans work for me esp for mids but with low end they always prove tricky and judjung lows in your kicks and how much sub is present is always a problem for me but as i said my cans are shit but they are deffo better for judging verb and delay and midrange detail for me but all cans are different too. but i think that even with cans you do need to check on speakers i have made things on just headphones for 6 hours straight put it on the speakers thinkin yeah this is heavy, then all of a sudden bam absolutely disheartening because it sounds like a cat wailing
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