pendulum were great when they first burst on the scene with vault,trail of sevens,another planet and all that.However they were a punk band before they even got into the drums and from my experience life has a way of working in circles,me myself i dont even class them as a dnb act anymore this is the sort of shit my girl listens to.Good luck to them i sure if they could of done anything like this before they were pendulum they would have.However they did up the bar for everyone in the dnb scene,but u know the best things dont seem to last
he would just approach and start a random discussion by himself, mostly be completely ignored by the rest which sadly didnt hinder his enthusiasm until someone would get pissed.
Originally posted by phatheadz
pendulum were great when they first burst on the scene with vault,trail of sevens,another planet and all that.However they were a punk band before they even got into the drums and from my experience life has a way of working in circles,me myself i dont even class them as a dnb act anymore this is the sort of shit my girl listens to.Good luck to them i sure if they could of done anything like this before they were pendulum they would have.However they did up the bar for everyone in the dnb scene,but u know the best things dont seem to last
You are partially right. Even though they went commercial, that doesn't had to mean that their music would went bad. But in their case, so it was. Unfortunately.
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yeah i always really liked pendulum, although i recently read an interview on their veiws on dnb (fair enough they've had shit loads of stick within the industry) which has put me off them tbh, was quite shocked how bitter they are about it now.. plus they didn't go about it in the right way, breaking their contract n all
Originally posted by Ketz
yeah i always really liked pendulum, although i recently read an interview on their veiws on dnb (fair enough they've had shit loads of stick within the industry) which has put me off them tbh, was quite shocked how bitter they are about it now.. plus they didn't go about it in the right way, breaking their contract n all
This is Pendulum's response to people slagging off granite
"okay, i've had just about enough of this.
i don't mind when people aren't particularly fond of our tracks - with every tune we make i go through different stages of loving it and hating it, so i can empathise with pretty much every comment made so far.
the only comments i don't get are the ones saying "we've sold out"...
i define "selling out" as not only making music for profit, but also making ANYTHING you don't really want to make for ANY reason (including fame, pleasing fans, staying true to a genre, or un-necessarily repeating yourself out of fear of progression).
the only way i think i could have really "sold myself out" is if i had made any more tracks that sounded like vault / another planet / still grey etc. those tunes are cool for what they are, but i've moved on in both my musical taste / influences, and my ambitions for this group...if you want to blame anyone for our change in direction, blame led zeppelin, the shadows, the surf coasters, dead kennedys, dick dale, howlin wolf, weather report, tool, in flames, herb alpert, underoath and all the other stuff i've been listening to instead of drum and bass.
we have fended the vultures off this project so much that it would probably fill a novel if i tried to explain it all. all i'll say is - i wanted to make every single thing we've ever put out. call us "shit" or "clownstep" or photoshop gareth as much as you like - but saying "we sold out" is talking out your ass. i never wanted to make straight up dnb - it was never on the cards.
oh, and by the way - i'm not sure if drum and bass is dead or dying (i've been in the studio / on tour too long to tell) - however, if your genre was flimsy enough to be knocked over by ONE SINGLE RECORDING ARTIST who happened to - god forbid - sell some fucking records for the first time in about 5/6 years, then i'm glad it was us that got to drive the final stake through its stale pig shit heart - and good riddance. wake me up when your genre is making something that people outside the scene think is worth listening to again."
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The first thing i thought when i read this was that Led Zeppelin would be turning in their band sized grave if they thought someone had listened to them and then been influenced enough to churn out the complete toss that pendulum call rock music.
he's pissed. i don't blame him actually, yeah i hate pendulum these days but if they're putting out what they want to and openly stating their real interest lies outside of dnb then thats cool with me.
although the comment about not really ever wanting to make a straight up dnb track and 'cussing' the scene makes headz who diss pendulum look a bit stupid..
nicely put.. but makes you feel like a used toilet roll..
thats where i got the interview from brucey
ya i know pretty much everyone has shunned pendulum, shame cuz they made some amazing dnb but for them to slag a genre that they were right at the heart of before is a bit disrespectful imo
but as i said - who cares? they prob makin a lot more money now and getting groupies
Originally posted by Ketz
thats where i got the interview from brucey
ya i know pretty much everyone has shunned pendulum, shame cuz they made some amazing dnb but for them to slag a genre that they were right at the heart of before is a bit disrespectful imo
but as i said - who cares? they prob makin a lot more money now and getting groupies
Personally, I just didn't really like the sound or style. Must admit, when I heard Vault for the first time on a big rig, it was quite amazing though
The scene changed a lot when they arrived. The song structure changed partly due to there style. This is easy to see when you compare 98-2001 Ed Rush & Optical to the later releases. The tune changed from sound scapes that could be mixed nicely into actual songs that were more apropriate for mixing in at wedding disco.
It doesn't bother me them slagging of a whole scene. Music is a matter of personal taste.
Hopefully, we can put this terrible mess behind us , pretend its 98 again and produce some decent sound scapes
This argument for pendulum is like the Metallica argument.
Did they get worst when they realist the St. Anger album or did they get better...
For me they just have too much and the just want to play some kind of a different music for a change for them self...
I myself had a band - influences from in flames, tool, deftones and others.
We ware playing first rock then metal the metalcore then deathcore...
It's boaring to play one style all your life....
Now I am trying to do some electronic music for a change.
Pendulum is progressive band that will change her style and thats the beauty of it.
If there wasn't any change we will know Pendulum like the punk rock band...
The hole world is changing, the change is part of the progress.
If everything stays the same were would be we now?
In the caves living on the trees...
This is dumb!
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by kbps: 27-03-2009 18:33.
i'm not convinced tbh.....if pendulum are making the music that they wanna make now then fair enough, no problem there......does seem to me like there style has got more and mroe commercial as there success has grown, older pendulum stuff wasn't 'dark' but a lot 'darker' than what there putting out now, jus seems that after slam came about, a little light-bulb blinked above pendulums head and they realised they could make a shit load of money from cheesy, radio-friendly dnb.....if there happy making that sort of music fair enough, are pendulum making the music that they wanna make or are they making music their label wants em to make?
