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Just finished. Finally got enough Ballz to upload a track. I really consider myself amateur but well let the reviews do the talking. Check it and tell me whats up and don't be abashed about anything. Using Reason 4.
Feeling those atmospherics in the intro, well done combination of sound. Maybe some slight eq concerning the low end, cause it seems to me that in the low end there is some fighting for place going on. Just a tad though nothing serious.
The percussions that kick in after a few seconds are dope, I like the stereo field edits you’ve done, not to extreme but enjoyable.
As soon as kick and snare came in I got the vague impression that your overall sound is a bit squashed, you should sort that out. I don’t know whether you compressed the whole tune too much or if it’s the lack of headroom (or both). After the drop this impression is pretty much affirmed. The break doesn’t really have space to breath.
The initial programming in dope and powerful though, I like those action sections. You could work the buildup before the drop and create some more tension.
Your bassline has a nice sound but I’d keep it more mono. It sounded a bit confusing and panning bass also is a no-go (sound canceling as other members here told me is the main issue).
There is another thing about the part where you’ve got drums and bass together. I’m not too good in exactly telling what the problem is in a mix just by hearing the whole thing but I’d guess it’s the bass of your drums fighting against your bassline. You can cut the very lows of your kick (varies but usually around 50-70 herz) to preserve punch but leave room for a deeper sub or you can use side chain compression or whatever. Let’s see what other member say.
Overall I enjoyed listening. The tune would benefit from one or two more elements for some variation though and you should, as I mentioned, re EQ the whole a bit and work the over compressed sound. But you’re on the way the track already rocks.
There's some good aspects to this tune but also some things that need a bit of work.
Intro is a bit too slow for me. An intro should hit you with a rush of vibes, and this doesn't unfortunately. I like the way the beats filter into the tune. They roll nicely and the pattern is good.
I love the bassline but it's panned too widely. I'm listening to this on headphones and it's quiet disorientating, in a bad way. Also, you should think about cutting some of the low frequencies from it and also layering it with the same bassline but with some effects like distortion, high-pass filter and oscillation.
Like I said, I think the melodies are good. You should deffo check out Source Direct's work for tips. You'd deffo like their stuff.
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This is just the advice I've been begging people to give me, but they have no idea. Yeah I have yet to fully master the art of mixing and EQing, that comes next. Mostly I have been concentrating on sound design and arrangement. It takes a lot more to be a Drum and Bass producer than I would have ever previously thought. Ok so can you elaborate a bit more on the bass being mono or not panned? Thank you guys so much I really appreciate it.
Originally posted by Dethworm
can you elaborate a bit more on the bass being mono or not panned?
Yeah, basically in drum 'n' bass the bass is panned in the centre, with a small amount of stereo panning. What you have in this tune is a lot of stereo panning and it sounds too wide. The bass and beats are always the driving force behind a drum 'n' bass tune and they both need to be centred (with a bit of stereo panning). Obviously, there are tunes out there that break this rule and still sound good but these are few and far between. In most cases, too much stereo panning just sucks all of the life and heaviness out of the bass and beats which is a big no-no when it comes to drum 'n' bass.
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What are some methods to get rid of the stereo panning as I have not done it with any plug in or anything (just ended up that way from lack of knowledge). Thanx
Because in reason 3 I would just route the bassline through a m-class stereo imager unit and put the knobs from wide to mono. I use to leave always a tad widening, as fully mono, it may sound lifeless (but just a bit ).
EDIT: the low width should be at the lowest value possible (so 100% mono), the high width can be stetted differently depending on how wide/mono the original bass sound is.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Gregg: 11-01-2009 20:32.
Originally posted by Dethworm
What are some methods to get rid of the stereo panning as I have not done it with any plug in or anything (just ended up that way from lack of knowledge). Thanx
Unfortunately, I can't help you with that because I use FL Studio and have no idea at all about Reason. Maybe one of the other peeps can help you because we have quite a few Reason users.
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Sounds great for someone who never uploaded a track before. Good stuff!
The third drop could do with some more tension and the bassline is a bit uninspired as it is very subbish and lacks colour.
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There are good ideas in this one musically. But it sounds muffled and overcompressed. Dont use any compressor or limiter on the master channel until you dont know what are you doing. I bet its will be much better without that things. Try to cut the low-end from your atmospherics to leave more space for the bass. Not bad for a first post
And welcome to the board btw
The intro is pretty fat...I like that dark stuff. The drop sounds a bit to different from your intro. its awesome though....I'd just really build on gettin to that drop and yea. I'd get a really good smashin snare in there. The breaks a bit dominant and real need a punchy kick.
Apart from that bro. Your bass and ideas are pretty freakin sweet i definitely diggin your style . Keep at bro.
spooky intro, not sure on the panning on the drum hits tho (i always say that haha but personally i think panning should be used subtly, only my personal opinion) as it can sound a bit disorientating on headphones
kick n snare do work together but they're a bit small in the intro, maybe add som hats or sumthin to help the inro roll more
once its dropped i really like the ideas, souds quite hectic / chaotic, i see what ur going for. not sure about that bass tho, i think it would be better to have a clean sine sub and then a separate reece-like sound
keep em comin man, defo feelin the vibe on this one!
I really appreciate all the feedback and positive criticism. I really feel a shitload better about my work now. Ready to open in a major way. Loving this site cant believe I didn't find it sooner. You guys really are some top notch producers and really my idols. I have taken almost all the advice and remixed the track. Fixed the bass and made it mono, sure did make a big difference in clarity. Re EQ'ed alot of the sounds and bypassed most of the master suite. As soon as my five day period is up I'll repost the track fully revised then I think that Maud is going to give it a little mastering for me and hopefully it will be a banger. I got like a million other tracks that just need my new found production skill thanks to you guys and I'll be sure to put em up here for some commenting. Again thanks so much its seriously appreciated.
Very dark intro, but I like it. Doesn't contain dj references, though, but I like tracks like that. The dark atmo repeats all the time, getting old fast. Try some combinations on it.
Wow, great build up! Wooow, what a dark groove you got going there, me likes it. The kick is a bit quiet, I think it should have more punch.
The rhythm goes on and on, maybe a bit dull. The bass is great, though. I would definitely like to hear this one on a party.
I await you for the mastering, check your pm.
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