hey iv been making some drum n bass tunes recently n still cant make a decent drum beat with reason i have made a masic drum beat wth the bass drum on 1 n 11 and the snare on 5 n 13 etc but i cant make anything better :@ can someone helpme out please
Search the web for some rexed breaks packs and load a (couple of) break(s) in Dr Rex, then start experimenting A LOT to figure out how a drumnbass break works.
You can layer drumhits to create a whole new sound. Watch some youtube tutorials on the subject (check out Chase & Status beatmaking tutorial and see some related videos).
Don't expect to be the drummaster overnight, it can be a bitch to get it right.
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Originally posted by ricky945
hey iv been making some drum n bass tunes recently n still cant make a decent drum beat with reason i have made a masic drum beat wth the bass drum on 1 n 11 and the snare on 5 n 13 etc but i cant make anything better :@ can someone helpme out please
n 11 n13? u talkin about the NN-19 sampler in Reason?
I've been using Reason for a while now and yes it is difficult at first to get a nice rollin DnB beat from it, here is what I would suggest:
for your one shots (main kick, snare, hats, rides etc) make sure u use only good, clean high quality samples, i can't make clear enough how important this is (i have loooooads of samples of which i use only a handful of the "best"). You can program ur one shots in the NN-19 or NN-XT (as opposed to the redrum) as you have more routing options and control over each individual sound that way.
Kick - i use 2 kicks, one big low endy on so it thumps and the 2nd a more punchier kick hipassed (so the kick has some more presence on the higher frequencies). EQnig ur kicks normally varies depending on the sample that u use but i normally boost my lower kick by about 6db at 80 - 110hz.
Snare - again i use 2 snare, one low one with a lot of body and another snappier snare with more high in it, the lower snare normally boost by 6db at 150 - 200hz
HiHats - pitch ur hats low and program a shuffle, then hipass them to give them some "shine"
Breaks - now get ur Dr Rex player out and go through some breaks - always hipass them as this will save space on the low end of your mix for the kick and sub (and beleive me u will need as much room in those areas as possible as its DnB) - u can reprogram ur loops in the sequencer in reason so always try and make sure that the break is playing the same or a similar rhythm to the main beat that you have already programmed. I can go up to 5, 6, 7 or even more breaks - theres no fixed rule on this, just keep layering until ur beat sounds full. Also try playing with the ASDR on the rex player, cut the whole break short make it nice n choppy, this can help avoid ur beat end up sounding messy
and ofcourse practice pratice pratice, you will get there, Reason is a great program and a lot of DnB producers use it
also bear in mind the above is just the way i do MY beats in Reason, by no means the way you should, everyone has their own techniques just use what works best for you
n 11 n13? u talkin about the NN-19 sampler in Reason?
I think he meant that he put the beats to step 11 and 13 (in redrum)
Anyway you can't get a decent dnb beat out of just the kick and snare. You need hi-hats, rides, and other percussion as well to get it roll as others said above. There are no rules to get a rolling beat you should experiment until you happy with your beats.
n 11 n13? u talkin about the NN-19 sampler in Reason?
I think he meant that he put the beats to step 11 and 13 (in redrum)
Anyway you can't get a decent dnb beat out of just the kick and snare. You need hi-hats, rides, and other percussion as well to get it roll as others said above. There are no rules to get a rolling beat you should experiment until you happy with your beats.
thanks a lot i forgot i had posted asking about that n even tho i do know more now this is still really helpfull thanks a lot.
i do need some decent samples only a bass drum and snare, iv already sorted out hi-hats n rimshots ect but u knwo were i could get bass drum n snare ?
Originally posted by ricky945
i do need some decent samples only a bass drum and snare, iv already sorted out hi-hats n rimshots ect but u knwo were i could get bass drum n snare ?
Vengeance packs have some nice kick n snare one shots, but be careful as everyone uses them
Originally posted by ricky945
i do need some decent samples only a bass drum and snare, iv already sorted out hi-hats n rimshots ect but u knwo were i could get bass drum n snare ?
Vengeance packs have some nice kick n snare one shots, but be careful as everyone uses them
just use standard GM/TR-drumkits & procsees them if needed, they already sound near perfect.
Gives you nice synthetic beats.
Layer them with some akoustic hits/(or whatever),
gives you the 'swing"
Process/mix again to a fat solid beat
requirements:
DAW with a few standard drumkits and a sampler. (any daw)
It really does't matter which program you use, just learn to use a sampler and a DAW, and keep all the other aspects in mind (headroom, loludness, tempo;...)
A nice trick which helped me a lot constructing beats is playing bongo's:
analyse existing things and try to figure out all dynamics/rhythms/tempo's...
numbers like 9 and 11 mean shit if they are on their own
Invite the others to: 5,2; 2pi; 1; 1,5; 6/3; e;...
cast them into a nice function (sin, saw,...)
they will create your dynamics for you
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Saikonutta: 04-05-2009 13:37.
thanx im glad u new wot i was on bout with the 5 n 11 thing n i have got more of a solid beat sorted out since then just i dont have any cash to get any decent sample packs n all the kicks i have are shit even when iv sorted them out compressed them n stuff
thanx to everyone helping me out i have managed to make some decent stuff with the info only problem is i need some decent punchy kick samples, snare and ride etc.
I cant seem to find anywhere free or anything, i have downloaded some decent dr rex break beats and stuff like that but i want to do the majority myself through redrum or nnxt. Can anyone send me like 3 kicks, snares or something.
you can load parts of rex files into redrum and nnxt
for a more full sound, if you already have the beat sounding as you want, layer some 909 sounds. roland 909 is a widely used rhythm machine, there are samples everywhere
