hi i am new to prodcin after on ov my m8s said i should give it ago after tellin him wha is wrong wiv tracks he has made him self, i wanna create a song that is unique but fits in wiv all the dnb songs out at mo i got the song in my head but just put it into practise i hv been tryin 4 about a month just playin round wiv fl 8, tryin to find the correct bass and perc like i hav in my head just everytime i get close to it i tweak it a little more an lose all my hard work any 1 go any useful tips that could aid me or point me in the right direction i.e websites or sample site i could go to 2 findy great sound,
hello mate, well keep experimenting (thats half the fun) and u may stumble across the some pleasant surprises, best to learn the basics of synthesis - waveforms etc or look at presets that u like to see how they are made, lots of free samples available online, (start with the samples section on this site!) and u can find some links here:
Originally posted by geraint
i wanna create a song that is unique but fits in wiv all the dnb songs out at mo.
Creating a tune which sounds like today's dnb is a very hard task. Most of us have been trying to do just that for a year, 2, 3, even more and we're still trying.
What you've got to do, like Ketz sound, is keep experimenting. Practice, practice, practice. Find a bunch of tunes that you really like and try to copy them as closely as possible. This may sound like cheating, but it's not. It's the fastest way to get the sound you want.
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and thanks alot for info and tha its all appreciated and i am takin it in
i am will to put a much effort into creatin the perfect sound i may take a few attempts but like every1 it takes muc practise and trial and error so ill keep at it t perfect wha i already now and if any1 could direct m to a gud tut site on the synths and stuff like tha would be greatly appriciated
Originally posted by geraint
hi i am new to prodcin after on ov my m8s said i should give it ago after tellin him wha is wrong wiv tracks he has made him self, i wanna create a song that is unique but fits in wiv all the dnb songs out at mo i got the song in my head but just put it into practise i hv been tryin 4 about a month just playin round wiv fl 8, tryin to find the correct bass and perc like i hav in my head just everytime i get close to it i tweak it a little more an lose all my hard work any 1 go any useful tips that could aid me or point me in the right direction i.e websites or sample site i could go to 2 findy great sound,
thanks alot
geraint
i live there.
let's just say to make a unique choon, like any type of art, to be unique, you first need to know how to make what is expected. you need to be able to make a mold, before you can break it. you have to first learn the basics, before you can make it an art. so try to copy every dnb song that is typical of dnb.
basicly the easiest way to do this, is to make a parody. to make the song you want try to make a song that makes fun of the genere. do the stuff that is overly typical and has been done to death. most of the time people will fucking love it, cuz it sounds like everything thing they love. just like KILL BILL. it's a borderline parody in every sense and scene.
that's why it rocked. either you'll do a typical dnb track that sound unique due to yuor style, or you'll learn how to make a normal track, then add in a few things that just fuck it up entirely. i.e. ska horn section with polka music break downs.
frankly that's what i try to do, and i get accusations of not being DnB all the time. but honestly, that's sorta dnb's style. to make an analogy no one will get, classical music follows strict rules, just like dnb. not one single classical song follows them all. the good dnb songs, don't either.
and thanks alot for info and tha its all appreciated and i am takin it in
i am will to put a much effort into creatin the perfect sound i may take a few attempts but like every1 it takes muc practise and trial and error so ill keep at it t perfect wha i already now and if any1 could direct m to a gud tut site on the synths and stuff like tha would be greatly appriciated
No probs. There's lots of free tutorials on YouTube (some are better than others) which will come in handy. A few other handy websites:
Btw, croeso i'r bwrdd, nice to have a fellow Welshman here. I think we're up to a whopping 3 now.
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some nice hints and tips in here, I'm not making exactly the music I want to make either yet, but I can give you some hints to get somewhere between starting and where I am now :p
1) Make what you like. You have this silly tune but you secretly love it? Build it up! Silly sounding stuff can lead to great tracks, cause somewhere you'll start creating other sounds and combinations and this is where you silly tune can rock it all :p
2) Gather knowledge from all genres! Really important if you ask me. I know this great dnb producer, but he hardly gets to subgenres of dnb even... There's nothing but the most basic dnb in his songs, it's really good stuff, but after a while you're really done with it. You heard the fat bass and the song wears off really quickly.
Dragor, for example, has some nasty trance tutorials (Right here), go get them! They might not be very useful if you're in some rockband, but as a producer of electronic music basicly all music can learn you something. There's plenty of dnb-artists that are really good because of their trancy sounds.
Extract from "Neurofunk" on wikipedia: It was further developed by juxtaposed elements of heavier and harder forms of funk with multiple influences ranging from techno, house and jazz, ...
Every day you're confronted with other music, so let it lots of music inspire you to change the course of history ;-)
3) Learn a generator / effect really well.
FL has the great 3xOsc synth, it will get you far. Quite some people will argue that other VST's make better sounds, well maybe they do.
But when you load 3xOsc you start with nothing but a very monotonous sine. It's your job to make it sound better by checking out all the knobs!
In many other VST's, you will perhaps start with a monotonous sound, but once you started turning one knob things start going almost automaticly. You don't want this if you're looking for a particular sound, because in that case you want to know how a knob will affect the sound, and be pretty sure about the outcome. If it's not what you expected, and not good, you can turn back the knob to the exact previous spot without much hassle.
That's a great learning tool!
And all that said, 3xOsc is an awesome, super CPU-friendly generator which can make wicked sounds. You can layer them up and I'm pretty sure you can get very close to any sound with this generator.
Same goes for an effect, learn one very well. An equalizer is nice, you need it when mixing/mastering, but a compressor is new for most starters, yet very very often used in music production.
All i want to say by all this is specialise a bit into some plugins to learn them. If you master FL Equolizer (I believe that's how it called), you'll easily handle any other equalizer you encounter. You master 3xOsc, you'll have little problems learning how other substractive synths work.
4) Get some project files from other producers and check out how they do things. You don't need to try and find out how exactly they are making sounds or something, but you'll notice some things that are obvious to all users of FL except the ones that are just doing their first steps. Things like the piano roll, the playlist editor, audio clips, automation, it's things that aren't that obvious if you haven't ever heard about them. Dragor's flp's could also help you here I believe.
Good luck!
Edit: aw yuck I made so many errors whilst typing, makes me sound like a complete idiot in english :p but I wanted to add: F1. Press it whenever you wonder what a knob is doing, if you're wondering how to do something, the FL manual is really good for looking up things.
