i have a pair of krk rp5's at the moment but im having trouble monitoring the low end because of the size of them. should i buy the rp10 sub for £300 or just upgrade to the rp8's for about £400. is there any pros and cons to these 2 set ups is what i really want to know???
So what you are saying is that you have issues hearing the very low end in your mix like below 50 herz?
If you want to, you should go for the subwoofer as the KRK RP8s won’t be able to make frequencies in this range more hearable then the ones you’ve got right now I think.
But why would you want to tweak sounds in a frequency range that 80 percent of all people can’t hear anyway?
Or is your problem that due to the little membrane of your monitors your bass is not audible enough and you cannot really work it?
I had quite the same problem I remember. I solved it by boosting the low end in the eq of my mixer to a specific value what worked great for me. I kept that setting, got used to it and have now no troubles with a badly hearable low end no more.
i'd try this:
solo your subbass-track and lo-cut it until the sub is barely audible. By doing this, you'll at least know that you're working without the sub cluttering all the low-end So in theory, your normal basses, kicks and so on will sound clean (if you have mixed
them properly)
And then for accurate subbass-monitoring, i'd say work with good headphones (far from the best solution), or buy that sub you were talking about. MIND YOU: having a sub means adjusting your whole studio setup. The positioning of the sub and it's level/volume are your first priority!! It's very easy for an extra sub to give you the boost and the oomphf and all that, but mixing-wise it's a dangerous add-on.
So cross-reference it with decent/professional tracks you're familiar with.
If you decide to go for the bigger krk's, make sure you can test them properly at the shop
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2) you DO NOT MIX with a sub. you just don't. sub is for music you enjoy, there's no translations of how that same mix will sound int eh club, or on iPod.
3) if you know how your speakers sound you'll be fine. sub is about feel, not as much about tone. the actual tones of sub comes from higher harmonics, that aren't sub.
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[3) if you know how your speakers sound you'll be fine. sub is about feel, not as much about tone. the actual tones of sub comes from higher harmonics, that aren't sub.
that makes complete sense!!!
i might just stick with rp5,s and spend the cash on summit else
This is weird. I always mix with my subwoofer on. Funny thing is, it's home built and tuned.
My monitors just cannot reproduce the bass frequencies needed (Resolv 40a
). I guess in a certain sense, it's a good thing. Plus, I always make sure my bass is audible on lower end systems.
Sure, it's dodgy, but I've grown custom to it. I think my mixes sound pretty good.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Acoustiks: 08-12-2008 06:59.
yeah man your mix,s sounds pro. just listened to your latest up and it sounds good, ill review it when i get home. i guess its just getting used to your set-up and knowing how your mix is going to sound on other systems.
Not sure if anyone else does this but when i'm working on a subline i usually play it an octave higher to get the melody right / in tune with synths and then just drop it back down when done.
I find this helps it sit better.
yeah i think its worth trying to take a simple approach to sub, at the end of the day its not a very complicated conept (unlike other elements in dnb such as mid basses etc)
there is so only much room for creativity with subs, at the end of the day it is just a single sine wave (albeit with some processing) - don't let it confuse you as like i said it is a pretty straight forward and simple concept at the end fo the day
Originally posted by KZSS
Not sure if anyone else does this but when i'm working on a subline i usually play it an octave higher to get the melody right / in tune with synths and then just drop it back down when done.
I find this helps it sit better.
Yeah, I'm using the same tactic. Good thing, btw.
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check out the sub focus vid in computer music few months back.....he gives some goof advice on using your hand to detect if theres any increases in the sub in the movement of the cone, you can get your compressor readyp (+ a midi controller if ya got one) and leave your fingers on the speaker then tweak the compressor until the sub bass is nice and consistant through the speaker cone...
[3) if you know how your speakers sound you'll be fine. sub is about feel, not as much about tone. the actual tones of sub comes from higher harmonics, that aren't sub.
that makes complete sense!!!
i might just stick with rp5,s and spend the cash on summit else
ive got the same speakers and they are lacking in sub, but if your mixing with nearfield monitors you should be sat close to the speakers anyway, no need for a sub when your mixing with nearfields (proximity effect etc) - only really need a sub when mixing as an alternate monitoring reference or if your mixing in 5.1/ 6.1/ 7.1/ whatever its up to these days (10.2 while i was at uni)....a sub will prob just cause you to under-compensate for your bass levels leaving your mix sounding too light in the low end.....
thanks for the advice guys all sounds good. glad i asked before i went and got the sub. how close do you have your rp5's, mine are about a 80cm away at head height. is that close enough??
). I guess in a certain sense, it's a good thing. Plus, I always make sure my bass is audible on lower end systems.
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