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northern dawn northern dawn is a male

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Frequency ranges - can anyone tell me what the best frequency ranges and db on all my kicks,hats,snaires,sub bass,synth bass,ambiences,all that stuff cos my own tracks are ok in the arrangement but sound bad, i find myself turning 1 up and 1 down,and this goes on and on, i think its called the hass effect....
A starting point to work from would be a blessing......cheers......

26-07-2008 05:36

Binary Havoc Binary Havoc is a male

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Heres a couple of recent threads on here on same subject (but lots more too.....use the forum search)

Drum Freq 1

Drum Freq 2

Also check these vids

They should also give you some direction

Sub Focus beats n bass

Chase & Status Beats

Peace

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26-07-2008 07:13

northern dawn northern dawn is a male

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nice 1 bud

26-07-2008 08:34

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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Here's a list of frequencies we've found on other sites and whatnot and composed into one thread on another forum which you can get to via the banner in my signature.

General:

20 Hz and below - impossible to detect, remove as it only adds unnecessary energy to the total sound.
60 Hz and below - sub bass (feel only)
80(-100) Hz - feel AND hear bass
100-120 Hz - the "club sound system punch" resides here
200 Hz and below - bottom
250 Hz - notch filter here can add thump to a kick drum
150-400 Hz - boxiness
200 Hz-1.5 KHz - punch, fatness, impact
800 Hz-4 KHz - edge, clarity, harshness, defines timbre
4500 Hz - extremly tiring to the ears, add a slight notch here
5-7 KHz - de-essing is done here
4-9 KHz - brightness, presence, definition, sibilance, high frequency distortion
6-15 KHz - air and presence
9-15 KHz - adding will give sparkle, shimmer, bring out details ...
cutting will smooth out harshness and darken the mix.

Beatz.

60Hz with a Q of 1.4 (Adds fullness to kicks)
100Hz with a Q of 1.0 (Adds fullness to snares)
200 - 250Hz with a Q of 1.4 (Adds wood to snares)
3Khz with a Q of 1.4 (Adds attack to snares)
5Khz with a Q of 2.8 (Adds attack to kicks)
7Khz with a Q of 2.8 (Adds sharpness to snares & percussion)
10Khz with a Q of 1.0 (Adds brightness to hats & cymbals)

Vox:

Boost these frequencies to bring out your vocals - So it says.

200 Hz with a Q of 0.4 to 1
3 kHz with a Q of 1
5 kHz with a Q of 1
7 kHz with a Q of 1
10 kHz with a Q of 1
16 kHz with a Q of 1

More Drumz:

cut off kicks at 80-100 (with a not-too gentle roll off) and take a big piece out at 300ish. boost snares aroung 150-200 and 1000-1500. 150-200 is where the meat of the snare is, and 1000-1500 is where the snap is

Snares
fatness at 120-240Hz
boing at 400Hz
crispness at 5kHz
snap at 10kHz

Voice: presence (5 kHz), sibilance (7.5 - 10 kHz), boominess (200 - 240 kHz), fullness (120 Hz)
Electric Guitar: fullness (240 Hz), bite (2.5 kHz), air / sizzle (8 kHz)
Bass Guitar: bottom (60 - 80 Hz), attack (700 - 1000 Hz), string noise (2.5 kHz)

Kick Drum: bottom (60 - 80 Hz), slap (4 kHz)
Hi Hat & Cymbals: sizzle (7.5 - 10 kHz), clank (200 Hz)
Toms: attack (5 kHz), fullness (120 - 240 Hz)
Acoustic Guitar: harshness / bite (2 kHz), boominess (120 - 200 Hz), cut (7 - 10 kHz)

Bassdrum:
EQ>Cut below 80Hz to remove rumble
Boost between 80 -125 Hz for bass
Boost between 3 - 5kHz to get the slap
PROCESSING> Compression 4:1/6:1 slow attack med release.
Reverb: Tight room reverb (0.1-0.2ms)

Snaredrum:
EQ> Boost above 2kHz for that crisp edge
Cut at 1kHz to get rid of the sharp peak
Boost at 125Hz for a full snare sound
Cut at 80Hz to remove rumble
PROCESSING> Compression 4:1 slow attack med release.
Reverb: Tight room reverb (0.1-0.2ms)

Hi-Hatz:
EQ> Boost above 5kHz for sharp sparkle
Cut at 1kHz to remove jangling
PROCESSING> Compression use high ratio for high energy feel
Reverb: Looser than Bass n Snare allow the hats and especially the Rides to ring a little

BASS:>
Compressed, EQ'd with a full bottom end and some mids

misc octaves:

The "Q" control sets the width of the band of frequencies that will be boosted or reduced; in other words it affects the amount of frequencies around the center frequency which will have a similar amount of boost or reduction. The width of the band is given in octaves. Q affects this width, but high Q numbers mean a narrower band of frequencies will be affected. To start, you will need to be able to identify the "Q" settings that go as narrow as 1/2 octave to as wide as 2 octaves. The conversion chart below relates Q settings to bandwidth.

Q Setting Bandwidth

0.7 2 Octaves

1.0 1 1/3 Octaves

1.4 1 Octave

2.8 1/2 Octave

Also, incase anyone doesn't know -

20-40hz 1st Octave
40-80hz 2nd Octave
80-160hz 3rd Octave
160-320hz 4th Octave
320-640hz 5th Octave
640~1.2kHz 6th Octave
1.2~2.4kHz 7th Octave
2.4~4.8kHz 8th Octave
4.8~10kHz 9th Octave
10kHz~20kHz 10th Octave

also.... Sound systems will crossover from bass bins to midrange/main speakers around 100-300hz; mostly around 200-250hz.

Harmonics:

If you have a 100hz tone,

the first harmonic is at 200hz

2nd @ 400hz

3rd @ 800hz

4th @ 1.6kHz

etc ...

eZ 0ot.

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26-07-2008 20:34

Muad'Dib Muad'Dib is a male

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@Sentinel: Shocked

wow man, you just got 10 in your helpfulness rating by me Bigup

keep up the work!

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27-07-2008 00:25

northern dawn northern dawn is a male

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cheers bud for the list.. its say on my account i cant rate people how can i change this so i can give that dude a 10 for the list ?

27-07-2008 00:55

northern dawn northern dawn is a male

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Boost these frequencies to bring out your vocals - So it says.

200 Hz with a Q of 0.4 to 1
3 kHz with a Q of 1
5 kHz with a Q of 1 what does the Q of . stand for m8?
7 kHz with a Q of 1
10 kHz with a Q of 1
16 kHz with a Q of 1

27-07-2008 00:59

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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In Reason the M-Class Equalizer has 4 bands [low, mid low, mid high, high] and it also has 3 knobs per band.

Freq = Frequency
Gain = Gain [obviously]
Q = Width.

The lower we set the "Q" the wider the frequency band will cover.
A higher tighter Q is good for cutting whereas a lower wider Q is good for boosting !

Q of 1.0

Q of 8.0

Also a good thing to do is cut frequencies below 30hz as well you probably don't need them and also they give you more headroom to play with in the overall mix !!!

Hope that answers your question !?

Bigup

eZ 0ot.

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27-07-2008 02:07

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
@Sentinel: Shocked

wow man, you just got 10 in your helpfulness rating by me Bigup

keep up the work!

Ta Maud'Dib !

Dinnae really deserve that I only started the thread on another forum and well we all just added bits from here and there !

HeHe.

But it's good that it's all in one thread rather than scattered around !

Reet !? Huh

27-07-2008 02:10

D2o

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you really dont know?

its a pretty fundamental part of an eq

there are mostly only really three controls to an eq band, Freq, Gain and Q

Q is just as important as the other 2 and should not be neglected.

Sorry if this seems harsh and would probably be easier if i just gave you the answer but i don't believe in handing things to people on a plate, when i started i had no internet to get info from and none of my mates were into producing so i had to find out the hard/normal way (delete as appropriate) and read magazines and just used the damn thing and worked it out for my self.

do a google search bet you'll come up with 1000's of hits

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27-07-2008 02:10

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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Well Jimmy I'm nae as harsh as you but eh !!!

Bigup

Remember I want me some nice hardware for me birthday in 2 weeks !!!

F0ol.

HaHa ! Huh

Play nice name thief !

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27-07-2008 02:13

D2o

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as a slight warning to others that think this is suddenly gonna make them a mix master....take these figures with a pinch of salt and only use them as a very rough guide.

Do sweeps with eq on the sounds, and you'll soon hear the sweetspots and parts you want to eq out as each kick,snare hi-hat, vocal, pad, bass etc are different and using one setting on a certain kick then using the same to another kick could make it sound worse

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27-07-2008 02:15

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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Well yeah that goes without saying as every sound is different !

Yep what Jimmy says.

He MUST know he's the bloody whatsit that passed the whatsit at the whatsit of sound engineering school.

Bigup

How many tracks you mastered now eh !?

and hows the new tune coming along !?

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27-07-2008 02:19

Muad'Dib Muad'Dib is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by northern dawn
cheers bud for the list.. its say on my account i cant rate people how can i change this so i can give that dude a 10 for the list ?

You have to register (to make a user on the forum) Wink

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27-07-2008 21:47

Sentinel Sentinel is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by Muad'Dib

quote:

Originally posted by northern dawn
cheers bud for the list.. its say on my account i cant rate people how can i change this so i can give that dude a 10 for the list ?

You have to register (to make a user on the forum) Wink

Wait cuz !!!

He wouldnae be blabbin' on here if he wisnae a member now would he !?

HaHa ! Huh

28-07-2008 05:18

Muad'Dib Muad'Dib is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by TheSentinel

quote:

Originally posted by Muad'Dib

quote:

Originally posted by northern dawn
cheers bud for the list.. its say on my account i cant rate people how can i change this so i can give that dude a 10 for the list ?

You have to register (to make a user on the forum) Wink

Wait cuz !!!

He wouldnae be blabbin' on here if he wisnae a member now would he !?

HaHa ! Huh

Yeah

must be post limited... hmmm

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28-07-2008 20:42

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