Getting that bassline wobble

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Getting that bassline wobble

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Tha Krane
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I'm not sure what to call it but I'm guessing i could call it a wobble. I've made some basslines that have the wobble effect but I've been using the Rate and Amount on the LF01 on the Subtractor and simply increasing them. But every time i press a key it starts at a different point along that note. How can i prevent that from happening using the LF01....OR EVEN... could anyone suggest another way for me to make that sort of bass on reason? thanks.

09-05-2008 15:49

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syncronise it mate so its allways at the same rate

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09-05-2008 17:26

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I know. its shit, the fact they didnt include an lfo start position knob or something. thats why I bounce, several times in fact. reaons lfo's are unpredictable, especially when you use non-tempo scaled forms. as CB said, try and stick to the scaled tempo waveforms, theres less chance of randomness

I got a number of tunes that sound differently every time I play them in reason, for example one tune has the right sound only after the fourth play... whihc is just ridiculous

bounce and resample, meaning once you get it going export into wav, and reuse in the same tune...

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09-05-2008 18:49

Tha Krane
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yeah i have done that method of resampling it as a wav and importing it on a sampler like the nnxt or sumthing... that does work i guess. How do i go about sychronising 'cos i'm quite new to equalizing and all that neck of the woods. Could you just give me a quick explanation of what i should do to sychronise please.
Much appreciated responses.

10-05-2008 18:23

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Errrr click the "sync" buttons and turn them on!

Wobble is best done on the malstom by the way methinks !

Here´s some youtube vidz on wobblin´.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MjTp25yxfO8 - Reason & Ableton Bigup

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SV3648cxbP0 - Widdlers Wobble Tricks Bigup

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XTL-IPONIA8 - Shimla - Nae Bloody Idea

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11-05-2008 02:14

Tha Krane
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thanks for that youtube link, it's helped a lot. my wobbly bass lines are gettin better and i got more control over what happens with them... less starting at random positions. Big Grin

11-05-2008 14:54

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Aye that´s we´re all here for to give and recieve ...
Or in some peoples cases to take but never give.
0ot. HeHe.

Malstrom is the way forward for wobbly bass in Reason methinks ...
Or a combination of Malstroms and eQ´s and Fx in a combi patch.

The Widdler´s combi tricks look fairly useful if you want to create a more controlled dubstep vibe type of wobble.

Whereas the malstroms by themselves can be used to create the same effect using the automation tool in the sequencer.
Or easier yet ...
You can set a loop around the recorded slice in the sequencer that you want to add the lfo automation or whatever it is you want to automate ...
Pretty much all of the knobs have automation properties in them.
Press record and move whatever knob you want to automate [makin´sure that first you are on the right instrument] and it will automatically add a note lane for the knob you are automating. etc ...
You can do this with all sliders and knobs one at a time or many at once if you have a midi with an interface on it.

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11-05-2008 18:57

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wobble.. is all LFO i thought. i dont wobble tho so i dont know.

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12-05-2008 03:53

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no lfo for wobble. it's all detuend and distortion. hecne why you hear distorted basslines so much, it casues phase cancellation, which creats a third note from the difference of the other 2 notes, which is of the same Hz as the differnec ebetween teh 2 notes.

so 2 notes that one is detuend by 150hz, you'll hear a 3rd note playing at 150hz, ONLY IF IT'S PLAYED LOUD ENOUGH.

that's teh wobble, in teh bassline, is that 150hz.

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12-05-2008 07:31

Tha Krane
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thats all good... thanks people.

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13-05-2008 16:01

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Originally posted by Halph-Price
no lfo for wobble. it's all detuend and distortion. hecne why you hear distorted basslines so much, it casues phase cancellation, which creats a third note from the difference of the other 2 notes, which is of the same Hz as the differnec ebetween teh 2 notes.

so 2 notes that one is detuend by 150hz, you'll hear a 3rd note playing at 150hz, ONLY IF IT'S PLAYED LOUD ENOUGH.

that's teh wobble, in teh bassline, is that 150hz.

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13-05-2008 16:46

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Originally posted by Halph-Price
no lfo for wobble. it's all detuend and distortion.

Are you kidding me mate?!

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13-05-2008 17:57

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Originally posted by Halph-Price
no lfo for wobble. it's all detuend and distortion.

Are you kidding me mate?!

nope he ain't kidding ; i dissagree on the "no lfo for wobble" thing ; but it's treu that the same results can get reached by detuning an distortion & creating phasing ...
althought the easiest way is lfo-ing Big Grin

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13-05-2008 22:49

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what about lfoing distortion parameters

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13-05-2008 23:23

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Originally posted by baz

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Originally posted by Soi

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Originally posted by Halph-Price
no lfo for wobble. it's all detuend and distortion.

Are you kidding me mate?!

true true, won't disagree, but the flexibility of assigning an lfo-rate to filter-cutoff or resonance even is way preferable, or at least for me..

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13-05-2008 23:30

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