every god damn post that goes, hey that needs more sub bass review, any mix, no matter how weak the sub bass is, in the club the dj will turn the knob for BAss and turn it until it's enough. the only reason to add too much sub bass is to make your ipod walkman have enough bass because there's no eq on it.
with commercial track there's nothing that makes a level sub, the dj is the one that usually will balance it out.
with that said, the best way to get sub, is to High-Pass everything. and bass instruments it's best to make them seperated to help get pure bass out, (i.e. make 2 synths one of a sine wave, and another that's some distorted synth), hopefully both from the same synth but one with different waveforms, usually 2 detuned saw or whatever, even another sine, just an octave up of whatever the sine wave synth is at. the sine is the sub bass, adn the other is the actual synth sound, make sure to High-Pass that as well.
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as a rule of thumb i compress everything at least a little, it helps. infact if you compress most stuff you can turn it down in the mix more then if it wasn't compressed. so reversed thinking, of compression = less volume. because you can hear the small nuainces better, instead of having to have the overall volume up to hear the slight details.
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"as a rule of thumb i compress everything at least a little, it helps. infact if you compress most stuff you can turn it down in the mix more then if it wasn't compressed. so reversed thinking, of compression = less volume. because you can hear the small nuainces better, instead of having to have the overall volume up to hear the slight details."
nice tip! the danger being that compression reduces dynamic range so compessing everything can drastically alter the sound but subtle compression on main parts of a track like you pointed out would defo help.
only extreme compression reduces dynamics, and again, it's fucking durm adn bass not acoustic jazz. you don't want a music that's pressed hard like this genere, then stay away from any other dance genre that wants to be heard in a loud "rave-like" enviroment. because ooh no, they might not hear the music with all that "dynamics" goin on. but again, contorl of compression helps too,y ou can compress slightly and reduce dynamic range but you don't have to compress and eliminate dynamic range.
trust me most examples of dynamic range comes from prog rock. that's kina the music you listen to on head phones and trip out on. most dance music is compressed, and all the music you listnet o on the radio is the exact same, but you don't find people complaing about how crappy the radio sounds like. :/ you can't even listen to the radio in most enviroments if not for hard compression it makes music accessable in all enviroments because it's loud enough. with dynamics at points you'll just not hear the song at all.
dynamic range is an enemy that must be CRUSHED.
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
as a rule of thumb i compress everything at least a little, it helps. infact if you compress most stuff you can turn it down in the mix more then if it wasn't compressed. so reversed thinking, of compression = less volume. because you can hear the small nuainces better, instead of having to have the overall volume up to hear the slight details.
me too , but your answers and notes are grabbed from the air , hehe
Originally posted by Halph-Price
as a rule of thumb i compress everything at least a little, it helps. infact if you compress most stuff you can turn it down in the mix more then if it wasn't compressed. so reversed thinking, of compression = less volume. because you can hear the small nuainces better, instead of having to have the overall volume up to hear the slight details.
me too , but your answers and notes are grabbed from the air , hehe
i do this and this and this...
air?
is that belgin for experince?
experinceful
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 09-05-2008 02:22.
hey guys - yeah I use compression onn pretty much everything (in varying degrees ofcourse depending on whether its drum samples, bass, synths etc) it is a pre-requisitie for DnB production, otherwise you have no "punch" to your sounds, when I first started out i barely used it, just used to crank the vol up, which didn't exactly acheive the desired effect!
Also you can tweak the compression and reduce the vol for a more defined sound, and tooggle the dynamiccs on the master?
