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"Disinformation agents are people working for the organized stalking and electronic harassment perpetrators whose job it is to prevent the truth from getting out. It is important that those who have only recently realized they are being targetted understand that slick and seemingly helpful and credible people do exist who are working to prevent our members from ever seeing freedom again.
Never underestimate their ability to do just that. Massive black budget operations for decades have brought the very best in psychological warfare specialists to either assist the disinfo agents or to actually be disinfo agents. We are up against the best there is.
I am not trained in psychological warfare, but anyone who takes the time to take a second, more critical look at information supplied by every writer or speaker on the organized stalking and electronic harassment issue can develop a reasonably good "B.S. detector". You have to make critical thinking - that is, asking yourself if a given piece of information is "too good to be true" or if it jibes with all our experiences - a daily habit. Time will do the rest.
We know from our MKULTRA colleagues that disinfo agents often set themselves up as "helpers", "counsellors" or book authors seemingly supporting the victims. In fact, some of these "support people" hang out with the victims and attend their conferences, where they may try to trigger previous hypnotic programming, and confuse the issues. Ask any MKULTRA survivor who has attended conferences to tell you about this.
The FBI's COINTELPRO activities involved doing exactly the same thing. They infiltrated Viet Nam war protest groups, or black power groups, sowed confusion and discord with constant lies and counterfeit communications from leaders. Breaking in to organizational headquarters and character assassination was routine.
So this is not anything new.
Here are some activities you can expect from disinfo agents:
* Frequently referring to statements and proffered information from organized stalking and electronic harassment targets as "beliefs".
* Stating that they are a victim, but doing things that someone targetted would almost certainly not do. Example: Telling other victims they are not victims and that they "should find another hobby."
* Flooding of email forums and newsgroups with postings - in some instances, to such an extent it is hard to find comments by others.
* Proffering of solutions too good to be true, or which ignore widely observed phenomena, or experiments showing the solution is inadequate. Example: "Wearing a foil beanie will protect you from organized stalking and electronic harassment signals", or, guaranteeing solutions based on conventional EM signals.
* Writing articles which contain good information, but which also contain either outright falsehoods or vagueness calculated to confuse a "new" victim or member of the public.
* Attempting to "explain" organized stalking and electronic harassment as other than a deliberate program of harassment. Mainly by finding "alternative theories" that may (sort of) explain each effect but do not explain the full set of effects. These "explanations" consistently ignore the frequency of effects, and the bizarre, constant street theater, break-ins and sabotage at home and at work.
* Sending certain individuals large volumes of emails, especially argumentative, endlessly repetitive or distracting, with the purpose of tying up the recipient's time.
* Excessive nitpicking of details, especially on minor points, as a courtroom lawyer might do in trying to get his client off on a "technicality".
Experimenting with countermeasures based on conventional signals certainly does no harm, provided the experimenter has a comfortable income. Where the disinfo agent might reveal him/herself is if he/she GUARANTEES success. While there is a rare chance someone might find a successful conventional countermeasure, a truly friendly colleague will recognize that money and time spent are entirely at the spender's risk, with no guarantee.
Here's a classic example of a paragraph from a disinfo agent in a letter to the editor of a major news magazine, commenting on an article on schizophrenia, but describing a organized stalking and electronic harassment experiment:
"If externally-sourced and heard only by the ("schizophrenic") subject, we would speculate a deliberate attack of unknown, but certainly sadistic, motive is occurring which drives victims such as Yates and others to horrendous acts. The method involved is also unknown but might be accounted for by technology (not likely since this has been going on for centuries) or focussed group human remote influence. ..."
In this case, the disinfo agent cleverly does two things:
- In the larger letter, which is scholarly in style and contains the names of PhD researchers who participated in a mind control experiment, this paragraph states the writer's opinion that even in the case of deliberate voice to skull attacks, the method is not likely technology, which we know is not true.
- By sending a letter to the editor in response to an article specifically on schizophrenia, the disinfo agent cleverly gets the magazine's editors as well as the public to associate organized stalking and electronic harassment with schizophrenia, total rubbish, aimed at setting us back years in our fight for freedom.
The above examples do not GUARANTEE the person involved is a disinfo agent, but should act as caution flags. One thing it's important to do is not spend so much emotion and time on "witch hunting" that you wear yourself down worrying about disinfo agents. All this writeup aims to do is advise a degree of caution similar to that used to avoid financial scams.
See also Facts, Fact Sources, and the "Poison Pill" Disinfo Tactic.
And by the way, I don't think there is "a disinfo agent behind every garbage can"!
E. W. "
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26-04-2008 23:34 |
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thechronic
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You should find another hobby 
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27-04-2008 00:13 |
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Greyone
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27-04-2008 00:24 |
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Halph-Price
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they did it to kevin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick
there was myths about him that were over the top
hell's angels was another big one, Hunter S. Thompson's story of the title Hell's Angels goes into it a lot. there's a lot of things that seem to get over blown with disinformation. but this exact thing happens in a group of 5 people, so it's hard to see if it's orgnaized or natural.
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27-04-2008 09:50 |
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Muad'Dib
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It is natural, and no matter it is organized or not, it is still natural.
Why have the right informations and be on top, when you can have the wrong informations and work for the ones there?
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27-04-2008 14:11 |
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Halph-Price
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that's democracy in action, sadly. this is why i am in support of a Benevolent Dictator. :/
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27-04-2008 15:22 |
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Muad'Dib
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Yeah, me too. :\
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27-04-2008 17:08 |
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27-04-2008 22:36 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
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Sodomy law
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A sodomy law is a law that defines certain sexual acts as sex crimes. The precise sexual acts meant by the term sodomy are rarely spelled out in the law, but is typically understood by courts to include any sexual act which does not lead to procreation. It also has a range of similar euphemisms.[1] These acts typically include oral sex, anal sex, and bestiality; in practice such laws have rarely been enforced against heterosexual couples.[2]
Canada
Main article: LGBT rights in Canada
Canadian law now permits anal sex by consenting parties above the age of 18, provided no more than two people are present. The bill repealing Canada's sodomy laws was the Criminal Law Amendment Act, 1968-69 (Bill C-150), which received royal assent on June 27, 1969. The bill had been introduced in the House of Commons by Pierre Trudeau,[8] who famously stated that "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation".[9] In the 1995 Ontario Court of Appeal case R. v. M. (C.), the judges ruled that the relevant section (section 159) of the Criminal Code of Canada violated section 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms when one or both of the partners are 16 to 18 years of age; this has not been tried in court again.
A similar decision was made by the Quebec Court of Appeal in the 1998 case R. v. Roy.
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29-04-2008 12:36 |
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Halph-Price
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I love Pierre Trudeau.
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29-04-2008 17:33 |
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Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by Greyone
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
and sodomy |
Sodomy law
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
A sodomy law is a law that defines certain sexual acts as sex crimes. The precise sexual acts meant by the term sodomy are rarely spelled out in the law, but is typically understood by courts to include any sexual act which does not lead to procreation. It also has a range of similar euphemisms.[1] These acts typically include oral sex, anal sex, and bestiality; in practice such laws have rarely been enforced against heterosexual couples.[2]
Canada
Main article: LGBT rights in Canada
Canadian law now permits anal sex by consenting parties above the age of 18, provided no more than two people are present. The bill repealing Canada's sodomy laws was the Criminal Law Amendment Act, 1968-69 (Bill C-150), which received royal assent on June 27, 1969. The bill had been introduced in the House of Commons by Pierre Trudeau,[8] who famously stated that "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation".[9] In the 1995 Ontario Court of Appeal case R. v. M. (C.), the judges ruled that the relevant section (section 159) of the Criminal Code of Canada violated section 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms when one or both of the partners are 16 to 18 years of age; this has not been tried in court again.
A similar decision was made by the Quebec Court of Appeal in the 1998 case R. v. Roy. |
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