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brucifer
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I don't know a great deal about EQing, but don't forget you also have an eq built in the vocoder. A lot more flexible than the others
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20-04-2008 00:44 |
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the first question is what Eq'ing actually is and does.
first of all you can eq for two different purposes:
1. mixing issues, sound puzzling, creating the right position for a track, mostly not too extreme, boosting frequencies a little with nice bell q-factors and cutting hi or low ends ...
2. filtering, sound shaping, mostly slightly more extreme since this isn't really mixing, it's actually composing the sound and what it's gonna represent in your track
basically what you're trying to do by eq'ing a track is that you're cutting out all the frequencies you're not gonna be needing for that particular track and boosting those you particularly want vividly present in that track
like f.e. a drumtrack may have some heavy low end around 40-50 up to 100-150 hz, which sounds cool when you solo the track but which rhumbles with the bass sounds in the mix, so you want to cut those out
strangely enough by cutting these frequencies the drum gets an overall punchier low end, while actually you're taking them out. this is because the lower harmonics from the bassdrum/toms/whatever are now cut and aren't fighting anymore with other more important elements in that range
this is a typical example of eq'ing for mixing purposes
if you have some white noise for example, which is used a lot nowadays to fill up the space behind the drums, you're gonna want to cut the mid frequencies for example, but depending on which frequencies you cut at which qfactor and which gain settings are greatly gonna alter and influence the characteristics of the sound.
you can create a 200hz peak with some white noise filtered down and boosted round the 200hz area, or you can create filtered, shaker-like patterns if you cut the lows and the mids from the noise and lift the attack a wee bit.
this is a typical example of eq'ing for soundshaping/designing purposes
which eq you use in reason and on what track is entirely up to you
some tracks just need a little simple bass cut or hi cut, so i suggest taking a two band eq for that,
if you wanna eq for mixing issues with a bit more advanced 3 band /hi & lo shelf eq, take the Mclass EQ
if on the other hand you wanna use the eq to really filter your sound, try the eq from the vocoder, very colourful and powerful eq
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20-04-2008 18:59 |
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theres plenty of free eq vst's out there on the net
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20-04-2008 23:39 |
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21-04-2008 06:52 |
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cynik
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Originally posted by TheSentinel
Seeing as I keep on telling people who don't seem to hear me.
Reason doesn't have VsT capability without ReWiring. |
true but the thing is. its got enough eqing if youre workign with the right samples
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22-04-2008 00:25 |
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Surya
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EQing each track on it's own is a lot of work, but gives better results.
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22-04-2008 07:33 |
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Halph-Price
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there is no other way.
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22-04-2008 08:34 |
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@ cynik
sorry to take this off topic but wot speakers are those in your pic? decent low end? would you recommend em?
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22-04-2008 19:55 |
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if ya want a clean crisp mix then there is no other way than eq'in!
deffo a big turning point in my production when i began doing it.......... with help from the .be crew of coarse!
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22-04-2008 21:48 |
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CULTURE BOY
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yeah man, i want some hardware but pennies n family = not a lot of cash lol
most of the software based stuff does the same as hardware n dont cost as much ( as im told )
practice mate....... thats the key to it all!
it takes time n ya got to just grin n bear it.
all the things will slot into place soon...... hopefully lol
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22-04-2008 22:51 |
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Sentinel
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22-04-2008 23:10 |
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cynik
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Originally posted by sephiroth
@ cynik
sorry to take this off topic but wot speakers are those in your pic? decent low end? would you recommend em? |
oh lol thats just my aiwas
and its not me on the pic, its a mate. it is my bat though
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22-04-2008 23:23 |
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Binary Havoc
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Difficult one this
The only program I can think of that might work for you is Har-Bal
Which is capable of completing a detailed spectral analysis of an audio file but runs standalone without the need for a vst host.
I dont think you can route audio straight into it on the fly so again you would need to export your audio out of reason first, then analyse it. Is that any easier than having rewiring into a separate daw running a vst plug in analyser? Fuck Knows
http://www.har-bal.com/images/figure4.gif
While I was lookin for an answer to this, I came across this which turns your PDA into a handheld spectrum analyser that I thought might interest some of ya
http://www.soft32.com/download_161046.html
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23-04-2008 08:08 |
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cynik
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