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Surora23
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25-03-2008 12:45 |
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Surya
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Yes, but hydrogen only has one problem: it's not an energy source, it's an energy container. You need electricity to make it work. So, where you do get enough electricity to make enough hydrogen to make all cars run on it? Food for thought, when you know you need 3 times as much power to make the fuel, than you can get out of it. It has potential, but it also needs more work.
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25-03-2008 19:55 |
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BattleDrone
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Google this...
"Hydrogen production through an ocean thermal energy conversion system operating at an optimum temperature drop"
...and you'll find what you want to know.
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25-03-2008 22:18 |
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Muad'Dib
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Or maybe, solar-powered electric cells that provide the electricity the electrolysis required to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in the water. That seems like a cheap way to me. And a constant one.
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26-03-2008 01:37 |
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Halph-Price
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yea there is a technology to make a lot fo hydrogen from very little enrgy, they hav eonly been using hydrogen for over a hundred years...
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26-03-2008 06:45 |
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Seven Gun
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there is no money in it yet.
oil is still where the money is.
when we run out (which we will), all of a sudden, the big energy companies will
bring out a "magic new" solution (one they had for years) and will charge bucketloads of cash.
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26-03-2008 06:56 |
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BattleDrone
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
Or maybe, solar-powered electric cells that provide the electricity the electrolysis required to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in the water. That seems like a cheap way to me. And a constant one. |
You would need a HUUUUGE surface of solar-powered cells to do that.
Agree that the money is still on oil.
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26-03-2008 13:55 |
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Greyone
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cool , but i still think we will make the most energy out of splitting atoms (maybe not splitting , but combining) :s , there must be a 'clean' way to do it without waste...
technology is realy far in that field nowadays...
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26-03-2008 18:13 |
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BattleDrone
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The've come a long way and nobody ever thought it would be possible to prove the theory of nuclear fusion given the extreme temperatures it takes to get it done, but we are no where near replacing our current nuclear power by the cleaner version.
Time is ticking though in about 70 years all our current energy sources will be gone. And I hear you think: OK, in 70 years I'll probably be pushing up the daisies so not to worry... never get any kids then.
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26-03-2008 18:24 |
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Greyone
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
The've come a long way and nobody ever thought it would be possible to prove the theory of nuclear fusion given the extreme temperatures it takes to get it done, but we are no where near replacing our current nuclear power by the cleaner version.
Time is ticking though in about 70 years all our current energy sources will be gone. And I hear you think: OK, in 70 years I'll probably be pushing up the daisies so not to worry... never get any kids then. |
pushing up the daisies

i wouldnt worry battledrone , if our evolution is so fast as now , we will have solutions soon , there are always solutions.
(offtopic) do you have kids ? do you want kids ?
i want to wait atleast till im over 30 :s maybe when im 35 orso (offtopic)
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26-03-2008 20:03 |
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26-03-2008 23:02 |
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cynik
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nah its true @greyone story
fusion reactors will be used instead of conventional fission not generating any nuclear waste. then implementing it in everything- cars, fridges and yer XYZpods, all will be run on nuclear power
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26-03-2008 23:38 |
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cynik
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27-03-2008 12:06 |
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BattleDrone
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number 2 should be solved with a simple speaker innit, you can shwitch audio modes and make your car sound like a reese
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You would need to use a whole lot of energy to make noise like the current cars do. Too bad because the sound of todays cars has only one advantage, you can hear it approach. But people living close to bussy streets hate it.
Silent cars would also get us rid of blind people soon
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27-03-2008 12:17 |
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cynik
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28-03-2008 14:40 |
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Halph-Price
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try driving a '77 buick skylark, with glasspack exhaust, i can drive by and set off car alarms.
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28-03-2008 16:00 |
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Surya
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
if you can find the video Who Killed The Electric Car? it's very good and explains how the release them, and then took them back from the public after all the subjects fell madly inlove with the electric car.
you may not realize it now, but an electric car CAN be a green vehilce, if the house enrgy you have is green. i live in a township that has 100% green energy coming in, so if i had an electric car it would be 100% green reknewable energy. :/ the only downside of the elctric car is 2 things
1. they havn't made it to travel that far, becasue the technology is still in progress
2. little children won't hear your car coming and will more likley get struck by the car. |
I'm a huge proponent of the electric car too. It's way more energy efficient than any other technology currently available, and it's already "affordable'. An electric car is 75% efficient (75% of the energy used is translated into movement), whereas hydrogen or gasoline cars are only about 30% efficient, and that's after 100 years of combustion engines, and only 20 years of electric ones.
Can't wait to lay my hand on one of these: http://www.zapworld.com/zap-x-crossover
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28-03-2008 22:21 |
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29-03-2008 10:06 |
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Halph-Price
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think of trying to scare a mate crossing in front of you on the street, instea dof dropping into neut and revving "BRAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR"
it'll be dropping into neut and going "Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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