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CULTURE BOY 
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right whats the crack with compression? been told that its absolutly essential when producing............
only problem is i have not got a clue where to start..........
any help?
tutorials?
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24-03-2008 14:47 |
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BattleDrone
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24-03-2008 15:39 |
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CULTURE BOY
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24-03-2008 16:20 |
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Sephiroth
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ive always been told and read in many places not too use compression on your master channel cuz it'll reduce the dynamic range of your track and make it sound a little 'squished', export the finished mix as one single wave file and load a new project then eq, compress n limit the master channel of the one wave. but yeh compression is important as hell, can make the louder peaks of a sound smaller n the quieter parts more audible, does reduce dynamic range of a sound tho so use cautiously, ive been tryin to learn compress for years now but its damn hard to do right, an artform in itself, try looking up compression in the mixing/ mastering engineers handbook, loads of useful crap in there bout it.
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25-03-2008 00:01 |
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25-03-2008 02:36 |
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Halph-Price
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you can never have too many different compressors. and real ones are almost always 10x better then the computer ones, unless you use a coputer one that has a dedicated CPU because the compressors that are really easy to use that you can actually put a lot of gain through, will take a lot of latency for look-ahead and proccessing time.
i personally only use about 4 different ones for music because they're fast, PSP Compressor for whenever i need it louder, PSP Bass for when iw ant bass to be louder and controlled good, and PSP saturator when i wanta tape sounding distortion that doesn't take up much cpu. there's other ones but PSP compressor is amazing studio quality. waves has some ncie ones that do good opto like compressing, but i don't ahve it and it does use up more cpu then i care you use.
Voxengo has a Elephant which does the best limiting i ahve ever head for a computer, it is completly unnoticable and that's rare for CPU compressors, and if it's pushed to mcuh it actually does a nice pumping not a harsh one, very good look-ahead and 4x sample rate! presets work good eougnh for it they have a few variety with 4 differnet db settings. easy simple beautiful.
Voxengo also has Crunchessor which is the only compressor i ahve heard that can emulate actaul tube/valve compresosr sounds with a sharp sharp snap, great for doing drums if you want a slap in the face, i did up all teh snares int eh snare package i made in the download section using that and the elephant, it's just so good for post-production effects, becasue the altency is 500ms!
also there's a wicked tape one Voxengo does also, the only down side to all the voxengo stuff is that it's only for PC.
so ya pretty much PSP and Voxengo will fill your need for a variety of comressors and quality, PSP for live and voxengo for mastering or offline effects.
psp also has the warmifier and the trebel one is a nice warm mastering multi-band lmiiter, the other is for making transient (initial sound the snap fo the snare) louder. and other trebel contorlling stuff.
Voxengo also has a few masteirng comrpessor a vocal compressor and a new one that is kinda mix of everything...
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25-03-2008 05:53 |
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Surora23
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get a good waves compressor
set your ratio 3:1 and make it a peak compression
then limit... but tweak by ear, dont worry about numbers... if its a fat sound then its probably fine...
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25-03-2008 11:18 |
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Halph-Price
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unless your ears suck 
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25-03-2008 14:37 |
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Muad'Dib
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Izotope Ozone is a pretty damn good mastering suite, with a very, very, VERY good compressor.
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26-03-2008 01:55 |
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philbee
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ive only just really started using compression on my tracks
at the moment im just using it on my drums to add a bit of warmth and snap to them,i found a couple of good free vst compressers here the classic compressor is wicked imo and its free!! peace
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26-03-2008 10:18 |
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CULTURE BOY
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26-03-2008 17:24 |
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junglist06
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i use the classic compressor too.
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26-03-2008 17:27 |
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Halph-Price
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there was another thing i was taught was that a comrpessor is under the same category as an EQ, and in respect to drums it works that way, most of the drum high end is int eha ttack and the warmth is in the release. so by contorlling thoes, you can eq the drums in a more "natrual" sounding way.
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26-03-2008 20:52 |
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cynik
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yeah Ozone is the shit but to use it to full extent and in live use you need a HELL of a cpu.
it is designed for after effects, but its great for example, rewiring reason and using the multiband compressor on your beats - instant fatness
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26-03-2008 20:58 |
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CULTURE BOY
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26-03-2008 23:10 |
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^my master channel usually has - graphic eq - stereo imager -multi band compressor/limiter - frequency analyser - in that order
usually use compressors on individual track channels. if you over do the compression whilst having a limiter on the master at the same time it will sound shit
but id worry about writing a quality track more than the rest of it (not saying you havnt 
). your worrying about volume, just stick a limiter on your master to give yourself an idea or for testing it out somewhere. if its good enough then a label will pay for mastering. worry about doing decent mixdowns first
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 27-03-2008 01:26.
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27-03-2008 01:21 |
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Halph-Price
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basicly you want a transperent compressor limiter at the end of it, and not pushing it hard at all, cpu compressors should be used VERY lightly, 3db push over threshold. it makes a lot of differnece for the overal track sound tho. again the best i found for transperent limiter was Elephant by Voxengo i only push this because they use a very nice registration method. i tihnk it was number generator or something....
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