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wTrouble wTrouble is a male
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Please check out my new track 'Artificial Reality' and post your comments here!!!

Updated track now on myspace - www.myspace.com/wtrouble

Is the bass prominent enough now?

Cheers

This is the first track from my new spare room studio! I've spent a lot more time than usual on this track, making sure I was happy with all the elements, and have used a lot of new techniques in making it. Thanks to all for your feedback on my previous tracks - it opened my eyes/ears to some fundamental mistakes I was making. I've attempted to keep things moving by varying the rhythms and automating filters in the lead noises. I have to say I'm pleased with this track and consider it my best to date. However, DO NOT let that hold you back - All brutally honest reviews appreciated. Please also keep an ear open for some panning issues - I've got a bad cold and I'm not sure if my headphones and ears are playing ball.

Gear - FL 8 rc2, Homemade voices in 3xOsc & Massive, Edirol PCR800 and Fostex PM2mkII

cheers, on standby for my 2 1/2 stars Wink

wT

This post has been edited 3 time(s), it was last edited by wTrouble: 12-03-2008 02:01.

09-03-2008 05:38
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Like this intro. But I think it needs a little break in it every now & then.

Bass sound is good, but could do with a bit more sub in it.

Like the bit around 2:40, maybe put a little amen break to smash it every 4th bar.

Not to sure about the bridge, bit to much silence! Maybe incorperate the intro into it????

Good over all though.


I will give it more than 2 1/2!!! Hope ya colds better soon

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09-03-2008 10:27
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Respect for asking for brutally honest reviews mate. Bigup

And if I'm being brutally honest with you mate... this is fucking sweet. Seriously good production skills and sound quality throughout. I can only nick-pick this.

I couldn't detect any panning issues myself. If anything, I would have prefered to hear one or two SFX (or even the odd bar of a bassline) sweep from one side to the other for an extra touch of 3D-ness. (I'm not talking about constant panning of course - just a very brief sweep from one side to the other).

A touch of some deeper, more prominent sub bass would be nice too just to give it some more, well, depth.

Oh, the very last bars of the beats at the very end - didn't like them. They sound very out of place. Imo, you should just finish it at 6.37 and chop off the last 3 seconds.

Apart from that, this tune is, imho, comparable with pro tunes. In fact, it's a lot better than some so-called pro tunes. Big Grin

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09-03-2008 10:36 Homepage of Tomos
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I have a hard time listening to the intro drums. I don’t fancy the programming too much.

I like the breakdown at 3:40…nice!

Your bass is evil. But I agree that it could use some more low end.

The tune ends a bit sudden for my liking so you may have another look at it.

Overall, goooood job. Definitely more than 2 ½ from me Wink
09-03-2008 11:12 Homepage of Gregg
wTrouble wTrouble is a male
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Thanks Brucifer and Tomos for your reviews.

Gonna have to come back to Tomos straight away...

Thanks man, and quite truthfully, thank fuck you say so! I worked real hard on this one and didn't settle for anything I wasn't happy with.

Regarding the panning, since people pointed out the whole phase cancellation on my last track I've been a slave to the PAZ analyzer. I guess it'll be nice to throw in some wide stuff.

On the sub, I thought it was loud enough but I'm only 2 weeks experienced on my monitors - gonna be a while I think! I cut everything at 40Hz and applied a very small boost. Maybe take it down to 30Hz? Or is it a 'volume' issue?

Those beats at the end are a fuck up - left a pattern in the playlist and didn't check it to the end - kinda sick of it to be honest! My Mistake You know how it is! Tune finishes with a crash at 6.37. Good to know that your listening through tho :thumbs:

Cheers lads Wink

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09-03-2008 11:25
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yeah , nice track , but needs more bass , subs n shit , the beat needs a bit more bass as well "imo" , nice i like the part at 4.25 , i gets a bit too repetive thou "4 me " , needs more fx`s , maybe more pads !!!!!!
09-03-2008 13:01
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sounds ok to me like the vibe dirty feelin it
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09-03-2008 14:21
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i like the filters on the lead

too much reverb @3.20
luv the half time @3.30
bass bit quiet
i think u shud switch too 4x bar beat on the 4.oo min drop, or at sum point tune wud sound fat wiv it
i think u overused the 90 bpm beats a bit when the lead first cums in it sound s a bit messy think the auto mation is a little out auto mation is hard sumtimes depend on what u useing ect its easyer to use midi controller to get them bits how u want too sound.

stucture ent so gud i think a tune like this is gunna benifit from two definate builds and drop
oh yer wicked drum sounds


09-03-2008 20:51
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Seriously nasty bassline bizzle going on. Like the track, you should structure it a bit better though. And no need to make it this long, 4 mins is very ok.

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10-03-2008 00:55 Homepage of BattleDrone
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Sick tune bro!!!

That bass is ILLLLLLLLL!!!!
that half time shit @ 3.40... well done
I give this tune 1 hell yeah and 9 BIG HELL YEAHS

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10-03-2008 07:11
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Cheers again all for your feedback - really appreciate it!

The sub is so easily sorted - already done it in fact - all fat now!
Once I get some time I've got some ideas how to finish this track off. I'll post a link probs after the weekend.

@ Gregg - not sure what you mean about your 'hard time' in the intro?

@ Clarky - took the kick to 80hz and did some nifty work with eq automation - any lower freq and the kick started to fuck up the low end. I did try...

@Geezz - The 'laggy' filter automation in some parts does sound a bit weird, but I was attempting to make things uncomfortable I guess you could say - a bit monged. Bit of a headfuck! not sure what you mean about the 4x bar beat? And I was pretty sure there was clear enough builds and drops. I did have the breaks twice as long originally, with lots of filtering in and drum rolls etc, but just felt I didn't want to do that this time.

@BD - fully disagree about the track length, sorry bloke.

@2clix - thanks, I appreciate the hell yeahage


Once again, cheers to all for the feeds

Peace
10-03-2008 12:30
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quote:
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@ Gregg - not sure what you mean about your 'hard time' in the intro?




This was concerned to the arrangement of kick snare and hat in the beginning of the tune, but never mind. it's fine how it is.
10-03-2008 20:11 Homepage of Gregg
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Really good intro, and the buildup does the trick. Not really my kind of tune, but everything sounds really good sample use wise. There does seem to be and EQ issue with a lil bit too much brightness and compression. Needs a few tweaks here and there, but was a good listen

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11-03-2008 18:55 Homepage of Philthy McNasty
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Really good intro, and the buildup does the trick. Not really my kind of tune, but everything sounds really good sample use wise. There does seem to be and EQ issue with a lil bit too much brightness and compression. Needs a few tweaks here and there, but was a good listen

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The drums are nice, and interesting, and the effects have a good gritty edge to them, the build up for the track is well done, I like the snare effect used on the drums, it's got a good snap to it. But the track takes its time to build up to any segnificant changes to it, but the changes are good and interesting. I lie the use of the sample vocals. I like this track, the drums could be jumpier and the track could be faster. Try playing around with the amount of time it takes for the track to change, shorten the time, and maybe try to make the changes more suddon, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but it would be interesting to play around with the structure of the track to see what it sounds like. The track it's self is nice, but doesn't really stand out, with a bit more work and quickness added it will be a great number.
15-03-2008 16:09
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ez

like the intro here, really good mix, has a nice vibe, did you add some vinyl needle ambience in there or something?

Drops big dude, nice bass work in there. the half time section at 2:35 goes on for too long for me but the build into the 2nd drop works well, again I think you should kick the beat back it at full pace at this point.

Other than that bit of the 2nd drop, i reckon the structure is about right.

Beats are really good, nice live kit feel.

Enjoyed

Now how do I go about giving it 2 1/2 stars??

Jokin

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16-03-2008 10:23 Homepage of Binary Havoc
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Thanks for the further reviews people - appreciated!

@ BH - Don't worry about the stars mate! Currently sitting on 3 stars, thats pretty damn close to 2 1/2, so I can't complain!
16-03-2008 12:52
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love the very beginning.
tek beats start... nice.

wicked stuff.

the mix seems WAAAY too wide though.
need bringing in to gel more.

structure, arrangement and ideas are all very good.
synth work is spot on.
beats work is nice too. plenty going on and lots of edits.

all is good apart from that weird wide sound, its confusing my ears.


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16-03-2008 13:10
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