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Please check out my new track 'infected' and post your comments here!!!

just a preview. no real structure yet just some ideas.
still learning and could do with some constructive criticism.


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27-02-2008 21:17
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Slow start, needs to build-up faster imo. You could probably cut the first 1.30 in half. The first drop is pretty flat. I can hardly hear the kick at all! Snare is thin too. The bassline is ok but again, the poor mixdown and sound quality ruins it. This tune needs to go back to the mixing board and ya need to focus on boosting and cleaning pretty much every sound. The low-mid range is very muddy so think about seperating the sounds into different areas of the sound sectrum, i.e., highs, mids, low mids, lows, etc.

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28-02-2008 20:05 Homepage of Tomos
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Slow start, needs to build-up faster imo. You could probably cut the first 1.30 in half. The first drop is pretty flat. I can hardly hear the kick at all! Snare is thin too. The bassline is ok but again, the poor mixdown and sound quality ruins it. This tune needs to go back to the mixing board and ya need to focus on boosting and cleaning pretty much every sound. The low-mid range is very muddy so think about seperating the sounds into different areas of the sound sectrum, i.e., highs, mids, low mids, lows, etc.



thanx for your comments, i know the intro is too long but its not really an intro at all just sum ideas. plesae explain about seperating the sounds for me. what tools do i use etc as much info as you can give as i am a novice.


that would be helpfull.
28-02-2008 22:02
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intro is too long, takes too long for something to happen, try cutting it down or filling it out with more sounds, drop is a little weak, snare doesn't have enough snap to it to stand out, hate to say it to but the amen break is far too blantent, id suggest slicing it and using some of the shuffles just to fill out the drums a bit.
drop is very clutered too, diffcult to pick out each element, low end of the mix is very muddy, try eq'ing out the very bottom end of the drums and eq out frequencies of the breaks used that aren't needed, i.e. if ur adding a break to add some percussion to the drums, take out a lot of the low end, will help other elements to cut through the mix.


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03-03-2008 21:14 Homepage of Sephiroth
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Slow start, needs to build-up faster imo. You could probably cut the first 1.30 in half. The first drop is pretty flat. I can hardly hear the kick at all! Snare is thin too. The bassline is ok but again, the poor mixdown and sound quality ruins it. This tune needs to go back to the mixing board and ya need to focus on boosting and cleaning pretty much every sound. The low-mid range is very muddy so think about seperating the sounds into different areas of the sound sectrum, i.e., highs, mids, low mids, lows, etc.



thanx for your comments, i know the intro is too long but its not really an intro at all just sum ideas. plesae explain about seperating the sounds for me. what tools do i use etc as much info as you can give as i am a novice.


that would be helpfull.


Sorry mate, forgot to answer your question. The best way to describe what I meant by "seperating the sounds" would be to start with the bass. Most basslines consist of two layers - one layer being the sub and another layer which is the mid. Never try to layer two things which are fighting for the same frequencies. For instace, don't layer too many low sounds. It'll make your mix really muddy and they'll always conflict. Try to get a mix of sounds in your tunes - a low sub bassline, some mid synths, some high synths, some atmospheric sound fx. Same with the beats - makes sure the kick is somewhere in the low-mid range, the snare is mid range and the hi hats in the high range. (Of course, you can always experiment all sorts of sounds but I'd recommend you stick to the basics first). Check out this video for more tips. Btw, I use FL Studio, which is probably the easiest software to use around.

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03-03-2008 21:33 Homepage of Tomos
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The hardest part of producing a drum and bass track is bringing together your pads, samples, beats, basslines, vocals and sfx to flow together and sound as if they were born as one. This track is a good example of a lot of good ideas working well with eachother but just mishmashed into a song.

I like the beat that you bring in through the intro, I dont think it's too long - when the spoken word vocal came in I hoped it would last through the intro till the drop which it didnt so perhaps give that a try.

Kick is too soft as is the snare when it eventually drops.

I do like the jungle beat coming in and out before the main breakdown.
Not feeling the crash at all, it gets a bit much towards the end. I'd kill that.

The track in my opinion works well as an intro to a big drop but not so much as an entire structured song.

Try doubling up on the bass - its a nice bassline but a bit light.

More vocals! shouts, yelps, sighs, more of what you already have *good evening my fellow....etc*

DEFINATE potential for a jungle track here stick with it!
04-03-2008 20:56
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