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dude, add RAM... especially for a quad core Big Grin

1gb/core is a good start. XP won't be able to use more than 4Gb, unless tou trick it...
while vista doesn't have enough with 4Gb Roll Eyes


I heard/read somewhere that XP can't address 4gb properly so i thought i'd get 2gb of some high speed nasty ass RAM.

And i hate fista...sorry vista with a passion so thats out of the question.


I think you can get away with 4 Gb... but that would be the max. Nice machine btw..
Will you run raid at all?
can't wait for the laptop quad to hit Gaga

If I had another year to spare, I'll then wait for the amd quad Big Grin

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[quote]Originally posted by Ghost
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Will you run raid at all?
can't wait for the laptop quad to hit Gaga

If I had another year to spare, I'll then wait for the amd quad Big Grin


I got a raid set-up at the mo and really, its probably been a waste as i dont much in audio.
the thing that worries me about it though is there is twice the chance of me losing my data .

Still got a few more weeks till i order it though so might change my mind.

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19-03-2008 20:32 Homepage of D2o
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hmmm

think im closer to finalising what im gonna get.

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Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9300 (4 X 2.50GHz) 1333MHz FSB/6MB L2 Cache

2GB CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3 1066MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY

ASUS® P5K3 DELUXE/WiFi: DUAL DDR3, S-ATA II,2 x x16 VGA, 3 x PCI

160GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm)

250GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm)

512MB GEFORCE 8600GT PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT

XP Pro

CoolerMaster CM Stacker 831 Silver Aluminium Case

800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan

2 Year Return-to-Base incl 2 Years Free Collect & Return


Gaga

got to love 0% finance, i wouldn't be able to afford it any other way

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You can always put 3 GB of ram Big Grin

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20-03-2008 02:08 Homepage of Muad'Dib
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wouldnt go for the quad core atm... in fact never buy the newest stuff, instead, best buy is the slowest dualcore intel but spend a lot on the motherboard, say a dualcore of 1.600 MHz, but with a maximum overclock using a good MB of 100% = 3.200 MHz

that and add passive cooling of the cpu and chuck two 12cm fans on the case , one in front and one at the back of the case spinning at no more than 1000-1200 rpm

its a silent setup where you saved a lot on the CPU (which in the future can be replaced easily with a faster one) but you have a good MB, and above all I hate changing the MB since reinstallling of everything is a requirement..

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20-03-2008 07:21 Homepage of cynik
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About that 4gb ram limit, I remeber how to go around it...well, in a server environment.

The trick is to edit the boot.ini file, and to add a /PAE switch in there. I cant remember where exactly, but I guess microsoft got some article about it. THe limit is 4 gb in a 32 bits environment, due to the limit of the physical address thingi. You can have more than 4Gb in a 64 bits environment, no prob at all...

This is true on a W2K3 server OS, I guess it should wok for XP...so go for 1Gb/core Big Grin

Good tip from Cynik if you are on a budget

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yeah and you can upgrade the cpu no fuss....

thing is - newer processors are always buggy, trick is to know which cpu is the "oldest" in the family, especially now since everything is so controlled that the cpus in stores are generally no more than a week old

series are produced cautiously, small series of one unit, (remember intel's p90, first pentium embarrasment, they lost a lot on that) then they find the flaws, rework it and send "new/old" cpu versions to the stores...

so buying a slow cpu means its much more stable to overclocking Wink

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not sure what to do now Frown

im confused

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don't be Big Grin

Cynik is not 100% correct here (no offence mate). The new CPU are never straight from the R&D department, but they come from the server market. We have quad core for a good six months now in servers, and Intel will soon offer the sixtocore (if that's the correct word...six cores I mean Happy )

Cynik is absolutly right about overclocking a slower CPU, that will be more stable. But the thing is that not a single CPU will be the same as the previous one, or the next one: by that, I mean that a CPU of 3Ghz for example will be different from another 3Ghz CPU. The technology involved are not fully precise.

Take AMD: they make a 2.8 Ghz CPU. Then, they test it before they ship it... and that's where the "magic" happen: The test will never give an exact clock of 2.8Ghz. So if the results are 2.2 to 2.6, they won't sell it as an Athlon, but as a Sempron (the names are just to give an example..I don't think AMD makes Athlon anymore, but there you go..). If the test shows a clock of 2.9Ghz, they will sell it as a 2.8 Ghz Athlon.
And that is how it goes in the CPU busines: Too many factors involved to be sure to have the desired clock (due to dust in the air, factory line not fully compliant, default in the material used....). Same goes for Intel.

I personally don't overclock my CPU anymore. Nowaday, the CPU power is measured on performance/watt more than anything else.

So, you might be even more confused now Ghost... Big Grin I don't know the actual Intel offering on mobile I am afraid, but let's say you go for a middle range CPU, and you should be fine.

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[geek]
ofcourse modding pcs isnt for noobs.

Ive got an overclocked sempron
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[geek]
ofcourse modding pcs isnt for noobs.

Ive got an overclocked sempron
[/geek]


sure Big Grin

I've moved country not so long ago, so I bought a laptop. hence not overclocking.

and I don't lke tuned car Wink

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