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Right might switch to Pro-Tools is creating more strain on my PC

Most of my work is done with MIDI, synths and sampler.

So.....

what would be a more worth while upgrade?

A) New CPU ?

or

B) RAM ?


Advance thanks for any help Big Grin

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What PC you running Jimmy?

Difficult to say without detail but probably ram

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run your demanding work and bring up the task manager. see how much ram its using and the cpu occupancy and you'll find the answer.

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If your pc is very old I'd not put any money into it anymore. Then you should buy a whole new system.

If you have less than 2 GB of memory then go for memory.
If you have a single core CPU you'd better buy a whole new system.

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yeah man i need to get me a dual core but im a bum and cant afford shit so arrrggghhhh dont run any progs you dont need when making beats that helps

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quote:
Originally posted by cynik
run your demanding work and bring up the task manager. see how much ram its using and the cpu occupancy and you'll find the answer.


Just tried this and my original suspicions were right, its the processor

only half of my 3GB of ram is being used but my 2x2.2gb processor it peaking big time.

damn. thats more wedge i'm gonna have to fork out, i'm skint as it is

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pc that's useful for synths. samples don't take up much ram unless you are doing a movie. most of the samples don't use ram if you watch preformacne they willb e on the hard drive, so the new harddrive better be higher RPM. that will help more than ram and cpu.

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quote:
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pc that's useful for synths. samples don't take up much ram unless you are doing a movie. most of the samples don't use ram if you watch preformacne they willb e on the hard drive, so the new harddrive better be higher RPM. that will help more than ram and cpu.


wrong, its the other way round

with enough ram (2 gigs is enough) theres no need for swapping memory on the hard drive. once the samples get loaded theres no hard drive activity..

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still .5second samples do not take much ram at all. unles you're doign multi layered 2 hour long tracks that are all samples most of them are like 2 seconds longest.... all synths runf rom pc, and the program runs off of the harddrive. including the synths, and they run fast with better harddrive, the most underlooked and underrated upgrqade you can possibly get to improve preformance for yuor buck.

but disregard if ou want, i just found from personal use that it helped more than any other upgrad eand i got the extra gigs of ram andnoticed no change at all. 350 mb of ram max 500 mb of ram gets used. really over rated to get ram upgrades. it's mroe for running multiple programs and mroe for visuals like photoshop or movie editing.

when yuo're waiting for shit to load up that's not ram or PC. and that load up time is a real cramp wheny uo got things flowing. last i am gunna say about the overlooked hard drive upgrade.

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well, i've come to the conclusion that i need a better cpu

My motherboard is a 939 Socket

the best processor and one of the only better 939 cpu's:

http://www.intellect.uk.com/product_info.php?products_id=885


but what i've also found is this one:
http://www.burn-media.co.uk/product.php?productid=119543

now it is for the AM2 socket which is different yes but it also says that this will fit into mine too. Anyone know it this is true and that it works reliably?

Just im curious because its more powerful and fuck loads cheaper

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quote:
Originally posted by BattleDrone
If your pc is very old I'd not put any money into it anymore. Then you should buy a whole new system.

If you have less than 2 GB of memory then go for memory.
If you have a single core CPU you'd better buy a whole new system.


Its not completly right ,I got P4 HT 3.2GHZ and believe me ,it runnin faster then some of dual cores.

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buy a mac!!!!! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin . just kidding!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by collective
yeah man i need to get me a dual core but im a bum and cant afford shit so arrrggghhhh dont run any progs you dont need when making beats that helps

Make sure you buy a Intel Core 2 Duo class of processors, their performances are about 20% better than Core 1 Duo class (the price is about the same) and they largely outperform Dual Core class as well as best AMD processors in the same rank.

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intel is ripping it at the moment

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i've given up on the idea of upgrading.

i've found somewhere that does o% finance for 12 months so im getting a whole new system soon!!!!!
And she is gonna be a beast

woot

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quote:
Originally posted by Ghost
i've given up on the idea of upgrading.

i've found somewhere that does o% finance for 12 months so im getting a whole new system soon!!!!!
And she is gonna be a beast

woot


nice one, prob the best option.

Ram is overrated these days...

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she is gonna be a beast too.

Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9300 (4 X 2.50GHz) 1333MHz FSB/6MB L2 Cache
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2GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR 1066MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY (2x1GB)

Drummer

hopefully won't have to upgrade that for a long time to come

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quote:
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she is gonna be a beast too.

Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9300 (4 X 2.50GHz) 1333MHz FSB/6MB L2 Cache
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2GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR 1066MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY (2x1GB)

Drummer

hopefully won't have to upgrade that for a long time to come


dude, add RAM... especially for a quad core Big Grin

1gb/core is a good start. XP won't be able to use more than 4Gb, unless tou trick it...
while vista doesn't have enough with 4Gb Roll Eyes

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dude, add RAM... especially for a quad core Big Grin

1gb/core is a good start. XP won't be able to use more than 4Gb, unless tou trick it...
while vista doesn't have enough with 4Gb Roll Eyes


I heard/read somewhere that XP can't address 4gb properly so i thought i'd get 2gb of some high speed nasty ass RAM.

And i hate fista...sorry vista with a passion so thats out of the question.

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