 wTrouble - Nemesis |
wTrouble 
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Please check out my new track 'Nemesis' and post your comments here!!!
Howdy,
This track updates 'Skanker' which was a remix of one of my older tracks. You may remember weird sax samples. The elements didn't work together, so I shelved it. Aaaanyway....
Here is the offspring of that tune. Still working out the finer details but getting close to finished. I have got a wicked sample for it but cant post that version on this site. Appreciate all feedback. Made with FLStudio 7
Peace.
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05-02-2008 10:54 |
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BattleDrone
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I hear major improvements here! There's something wrong with the phasing of some elements though, it seems to be twisted so the sound is partly canceling itself, might want to change that. You seem to have used a stereo enhancer on the whole track, this fucks up the basses and the drums. Use stereo enhancers only on synths, vocals, ... not on drums or bass elements.
Track is a bit too long, the first 3:30 are a bit boring and repetitive... and then an ultra long breakdown. Track never seems to get started for real. If you build up to a climax with your drums then you should do something with it and not just pick them up in the middle of a bar (liek around 5:40).
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05-02-2008 23:34 |
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wTrouble
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Thanks for listening BD, appreciate the feedback but admit to being left a bit confused. 
I checked the mixer - there is an eq and mastering compressor on the master channel. Everything below 200hz is mono. All drums are left in the centre. I'm scratching my head here, I'll need to spend hours looking at stuff before I find the blatant and obvious 'Megawidener VST' somewhere stupid.
The lead synths in the track do have chorus/phaser on them, but only on signal above 250hz - could this be the phasing your talking about? Probably. I put them in to try and give movement within the layers.
As to track length, well,
. To my knowledge this track follows a fairly standard and formulaic structure, the second breakdown is equal in length to the first (although they are missing the samples which are a key point of interest in the breaks) and the point at 5.40 simply a fill, same as all the others occurring every four bars.... although there is actually a rogue additional ride bell that jumps out there, my bad.
Dissapointing that you find the track a boring and pointless non-starter, maybe I'll lose the intro hats and throw in a reece or something 
All good but, thanks for the feedback.
Peace, wT 
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06-02-2008 05:58 |
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Philthy McNasty
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Sounds good on my end, but only listening on headphones atm. I must say this tho, that bassline does not do ur beatwork justice imo. Had a sick new roller sound to the beats, and the breakdowns are pretty sweet. I would rethink the simplicity of that bline and spice it up like ur beat. Pretty much about it...wish i could give more feedback on the sound, but as i am listening on headphones i cant exactly do that 
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06-02-2008 07:02 |
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Tomos
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I'm a little more enthuastic about the bassline that Philthy. I love the sound of it. Almost sounds like a real bass with some chorus on it - something from a Tool album maybe. 
The overall sound is very impressive. Yeah, there's quite a bit of panning going on with the bass. (It starts out centred and runs through to the left-hand side). I didn't like that. Also, there's quite a bit of stereo panning... didn't like that either sorry. 
I really like the overall sound you've managed to get out of FL. A good frequency range, very nice on the ears.
Coooool tune. 
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08-02-2008 17:30 |
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wTrouble
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Tomos! Mate! Cheque is in the post!
Nah, seriously but... it's fucking disheartening when you log in and your tune has 3 stars and somebody else running a loop got 4 1/2!
Do you think the stereo bizness everyone keeps bringing up has anything to do with using headphones? I'm buying some Fostex PM2 Mk 2's next month, but surely you'd pick it up easy enough on headphones?????
The bass was split into 3, fx on only the mid & high, so I wouldn't have thought panning on stuff above 250hz would be that disasterous. I'll go back to the flp before I renedered it and try and centre things a bit.
Cheers for the +ve feedback but, I'm still trying to figure out what to say about 'Angel' - I keep blissing out when I listen to it!
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09-02-2008 09:04 |
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Tomos
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Originally posted by wTrouble
Nah, seriously but... it's fucking disheartening when you log in and your tune has 3 stars and somebody else running a loop got 4 1/2! |
I totally agree. It's probably not possible, but I reckon that anyone who bases a tune on 1 or more unaltered loops shouldn't be able to get more than about 60%. Even that is pretty generous.
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Do you think the stereo bizness everyone keeps bringing up has anything to do with using headphones? I'm buying some Fostex PM2 Mk 2's next month, but surely you'd pick it up easy enough on headphones????? |
Well, stereo panning is definitely not caused by headphones but it's defo more noticeable on them. Do you ocassionally use headphones when producing to make sure the mix sounds good? If not, you should. You can pick up a lot more detail on headphones.
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The bass was split into 3, fx on only the mid & high, so I wouldn't have thought panning on stuff above 250hz would be that disasterous. I'll go back to the flp before I renedered it and try and centre things a bit. |
Cool, it'll most probably sound much better for it.
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Cheers for the +ve feedback but, I'm still trying to figure out what to say about 'Angel' - I keep blissing out when I listen to it! |
Hey mate, feel free to say what you want about Angel. Any comment is better than no comment!
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