 Discussion: Donny & Current Value [with audio clips] |
darkstar 
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I want to start a discussion, if I may.
Recently I got hold of the entire Barcode Recordings back-catalogue and my, what a lot of quality music. Spor, Evol Intent, Ewun, Raiden; all quality artists and a fantastic selection of tracks. Nice deep basses, strong drumlines, catchy melodies.
Then I got to Donny. 'The Forgotten'.
'Evil' is the only word that comes to mind when listening to this. It's a very well-produced track, the overtone that snare causes on the bass is incredible, but I couldn't help but feel a change in overall attitude toward the genre after listening to this.
Then I found Current Value's 'Tunnel Vision'.
Again, brilliant clarity and strength, but between these two tracks there is no real change, a whole lot of hard loops with no dynamic, dark stabs that cut like knives and well, you can make your own minds up about music value.
My starters for this discussion is, what are we to call this new style of drum'n'bass? does it already have a name? is there a lot of it?
and most importantly,
can this style of dnb meet the quality and thought of dnb produced by the likes of Noisia and Spor or is it just meaningless noise?
You decide.
>>>BattleDrone>>> Some audio clips <<<
Donny - The forgotten
Current Value - Tunnel Vision
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25-10-2007 03:39 |
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tetsuo
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You may start a discussion indeed! 
I need to check the 2 tunes you are talking about... but I know some of CV work, and I don't like it so much... I mean, the guy is a pro, highly skilled ( his drums are just insanes..) but it is not my thing.
On the other hand, I think that the likes of noisia and Spor, to name a few, are really pushing the "tech-neuro-avant garde" sound a lot lately. I think this is their style, even if they can changes it now and then...
Seems that this new sound is not loved by every drums heads, to each their taste, I respect that. But coming from the underground tech scene ( mainly hard tech, but no hardcvore, thanx!), I really love this neuro sound! It seems to be a natural progression, even if it split the scene a bit more.
I started to listen to jungle back in 95, but I was seeing it as a chilled vibe music, nothing to do with the heavy tunes those guys are now making, so I understand why not all jungle headz digg that kind of sound.
my 2 cents
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25-10-2007 14:10 |
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KreyZ
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ezz
don't know if this stuff already has a name...
but you should call it tek step imo :p
these people are def takin dnb to another level with faster and twisted breaks.
current is a machine and he's def one of my top fav producers
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20-11-2007 00:12 |
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darkstar
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@harplnsdrftr
I couldn't agree with you more. Donny had talent for The Forgotten, but with repetitive use of sound effects and too many like-elements, he has failed to keep interest after that first awesome track.
Current Value's 'End of Days' is such a sick track. Can't get enough of that end-of-the-world feel he has going. Real impending doom shit. I LOVE IT.
Anybody heard 'The Legend' by Technical Itch vs. Evol Intent? Some good ideas here.
Anybody wanna collaborate on a track like this? Do something really hard and nasty? I'm in the mood, lol
>>>BattleDrone>>> Some audio clips <<<
Technical Itch - The Legend
Current Value - End Of Days
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20-11-2007 01:22 |
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KreyZ
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you mean the legend (evol intent remix).
that's one hard tune man : it brought me to the dark side
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20-11-2007 20:10 |
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KreyZ
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btw : if current value is big , what are spl and limewax then?
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20-11-2007 20:13 |
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darkstar
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I personally haven't heard any limewax yet, but SPL is sorta hard. Something wrong with the production on his/her/its tracks, can't pick it.
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22-11-2007 09:51 |
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Greyone
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Originally posted by darkstar
@harplnsdrftr
I couldn't agree with you more. Donny had talent for The Forgotten, but with repetitive use of sound effects and too many like-elements, he has failed to keep interest after that first awesome track.l |
thats right , though he has a good soundquality his tracks lack variation by his recycling of his samples.
to be honnest , many producers do that and sometimes without knowing the impact on the crowd.
Darkstep grew fast the last year and got many split styles
do some research
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22-11-2007 12:33 |
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Originally posted by darkstar
I personally haven't heard any limewax yet, but SPL is sorta hard. Something wrong with the production on his/her/its tracks, can't pick it. |
Limewax produces Limewax style.. can't be compared with any other producer in my opinion, his tracks have a soul, which is a great thing. Too many of those hard producers are just about proving you can make a mean and hard sound.
I find Limewax very inspiring at times (especially tracks like "One Of Them") which is not always the case with hardstep.
>>>BattleDrone>>> Some audio clips <<<
Limewax - 666 - The Golden Path - The Limit - Satanina - One Of Them
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22-11-2007 12:48 |
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Greyone
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LIMEWAX 
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22-11-2007 19:19 |
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right on! one of my favourites, in fact, my favourite I think xD
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22-11-2007 22:15 |
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right on! one of my favourites, in fact, my favourite I think xD |
got a vinyl of his, the golden path, and when you play that track out loud the hardcore kick is MASSIVE, never heard anything like that:
hc - snare - kick - snare
snare - snare - snare - kick - snare
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hc - snare - kick - snare
kick - kick - snare - kick - snare
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23-11-2007 17:29 |
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KreyZ
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@ darkstar
spl = he
spl = mastermind
haven't heard limewax 
... where have you been the last 3 years????
golden path rules , also have that one on vinyl
tho his first release on freak is still my alltime favorite
...oh yeah and DEF liking scars on the horizon and we have life EP
...now that I think of it ... has he ever released a bad tune? 
to get back to the subject : I like the unspoken from donny , the aa side from tza ain't that bad either
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29-11-2007 01:56 |
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lmfao. but true
666 is an eye-opening ruffneck gangsta crunk classic darkstep montster. 
i agree with battledrone on this subject tho.
shit gotta have a soul, or shit dont mean shit.
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29-11-2007 02:09 |
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darkstar
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@ KreyZ
You = ignorant.
I've been here all of TWO months and I've only recently REALLY got into DnB, before then i produced Trance and Hard House and as you can probably guess, they were my listening styles at that time too.
I only know what I've heard and that has been Spor, Ewun, Evol Intent, Donny, Current Value, the odd DJ Fresh track and a few others. Give a noob a break.
Not meaning to get angry, but think about what you say before saying it.
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29-11-2007 02:27 |
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KreyZ
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I was giving you pointers to shurely check out there work...
djeez don't get offended that quickly
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29-11-2007 02:52 |
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darkstar
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Ya could have said it a bit nicer mate, I apologise for flyin off the hook at you.
That quickly? Lol, aiming to offend at a later time? 
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29-11-2007 09:54 |
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KreyZ
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ka-tchhhhhhhhhhhhh 
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29-11-2007 11:05 |
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