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junglist06 
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Just wondered if anyone had any tips on snares, i cant get them as snappy as i would like, and just wondered how other people applyed reverb, eq'd there layers etc
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18-08-2007 17:19 |
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Halph-Price
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to get snappier you need to learn teh art of compression. reverb takes away snappiness. my tip for EQ is that it's hard to boost anything above 1k, it causes almost an odd phasing sound on snares, BUT you can boost at 1k usually and get a more punchier sound. thre's a great snare pack on the site i have done with like 50 snappy snares, it's all i use, usually layering them 2 at a time, they work great.
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18-08-2007 17:51 |
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i have found that using a good clap layered and pitched up helps
to get a nice snappy effect.
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18-08-2007 22:06 |
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Halph-Price
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Originally posted by junglist06
ok then, thanks alot for that. i noticed that reverb took away the snap of it so i have been only adding a slight ammount of reverb with a fairly lengthy predelay so you still get the snap. before i was boosting above 1k, especially in the 5-16k range so i expect that this is probably why my snares are loosing their crispness. i love snares that have a real snap to them, like a whip cracking. anyways i will try that out 2moro sometime, im off to the coven now, its gonna be messy
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layering is always the best way to go, but 1k is the initial snap, and the sizzle after is the 5k. at least, with traditional snares. the drum machine ones like 909 is pretty much the same but they got a lot more depth to them after the initial hit.
layering sounds is a technique called "wall of sound" the man who invented it is in court for murder. it's that good.
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18-08-2007 23:45 |
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junglist06
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cheers for that, have still not got round to tryin it, not got over the weekend fully yet
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21-08-2007 15:22 |
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hahaha the Coven, BADMAN ! oxford yes?
Try a bit of distortion on them snares also...a lot of snares got natural reverb on the already...
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22-08-2007 12:25 |
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junglist06
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yep thats the one. was a phat nite too
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22-08-2007 23:32 |
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Halph-Price
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something you can do for snares,a nd pretty much everything, being done since mo-town i know, is to ahve distoriton on a a track and tehn using the wet/dry knob or a send track, add in a little bit of distortion, just to add some grit/precnes/thickness. it all depends on teh type of distortion, if it's an over drive usually it what you'd use for a snare, it'll add more punch and high end. it's very helpful, keep the original sound with a bit more.
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23-08-2007 02:35 |
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dude i think overdrive should be done in a slight bit, my favorite for crunchy sound is the bit chrusher
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23-08-2007 09:13 |
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wtf is snappy :p
nah try this with a couple of snares , and one of them should give a gooood result.
take 2 snares at a time (a & b)
a. cut the mids , boost the volume , maybe some flatening off the tops to get a powerfull sound 
, eq a bit here n there
b. get a snare with a good 'mid' and use that as 2nd layer , cut the hi - low in order of the 1st snare.
use some filterknobs to blend them in eachother , eq them to eachtother .
compression can be helpfull but is not nessecary (lower the volume a bit instead)
tip: use metal-sounding clash sounds to layer snares 
(kling klang , you know what i mean)
keep on drummin' 
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23-08-2007 10:27 |
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junglist06
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nice one guys, will try them out, halph price, have boosted at 1k and it has really helped, cheers. will try adding a little distortion, i have usually added a little distortion to the kick in my techno tunes but have never tried it in my dnb snares. you go to the coven then digital cause?
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24-08-2007 00:25 |
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Use a compressor. Extending the attack setting makes your snare snappy.
Use these basic settings (and modify them to suit your needs):
attack: 15ms
release: 80ms
threshold: you have to look the original maximum volume of the snare's attack, and put it just below it. Experiment.
gain: you can leave it on 0db or add a little if needed.
mode: if you have vintage that might help as it lets distorted sounds to go through enhancing their attack. But leave it on hard most of the times.
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24-08-2007 10:24 |
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Originally posted by Greyone
wtf is snappy :p
nah try this with a couple of snares , and one of them should give a gooood result.
take 2 snares at a time (a & b)
a. cut the mids , boost the volume , maybe some flatening off the tops to get a powerfull sound
, eq a bit here n there
b. get a snare with a good 'mid' and use that as 2nd layer , cut the hi - low in order of the 1st snare.
use some filterknobs to blend them in eachother , eq them to eachtother .
compression can be helpfull but is not nessecary (lower the volume a bit instead)
tip: use metal-sounding clash sounds to layer snares
(kling klang , you know what i mean)
keep on drummin'
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snappy is more highend attack, punchy would be a bit more mid attack. like when you snap? it's pretty much self-explanitory. like a clap with laytex gloves would be a snappy sound. and compression is the key to sharp drum sounds. i havn't found many useful for this other than PSPTrebble and Voxengo's compressor. that one is what i use, but it's got a huge latency.
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 24-08-2007 10:34.
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24-08-2007 10:33 |
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i believe layering with a open hihat and or a percussion sound can also help a bit sometimes. i use this sometimes.
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27-08-2007 12:57 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
...Voxengo's compressor. that one is what i use, but it's got a huge latency. |
bounce and reload
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27-08-2007 15:04 |
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Greyone
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i prefer punchy to snappy
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27-08-2007 17:31 |
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Voxengo's compressor. that one is what i use, but it's got a huge latency. |
that one is sweet tho, its damn good for sidechaining in cubase.
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29-08-2007 07:22 |
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it's all subjective to style. minimal is to punchy, as layered is to snappy.