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im workin on a tune at the moment, and needed a more solid low end, so I went for the old layering with a sine wave trick... now correct me if im wrong but by defnition sine waves have no harmonics apart from the fundamental... when i play my new tune a bit louder and i can notice the sine sub it just plain sounds weak, but it does give a solid low end.... how can i make it sound more menacing, distortion etc doesnt seem to do much, ive compressed it with the rest of the bass and the balance is cool... just wondering if anyone got tips/wants to share experiences of layering sines with bass... 
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06-06-2007 17:13 |
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btw my point about the lack of harmonics i was implying that it is therefore kinda hard to really change the sound a lot... thanks!
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06-06-2007 17:17 |
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If you distort it (take an overdrive or a 'clipping' effect) you create more harmonics, effectively turning it more into a square wave.
So maybe you are looking more for a square wave, a saw or a triangle wave?
It's true that the lack of harmonics make it sound really clean. Sine waves are pure tones, will never sound menacing all by themselves 
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06-06-2007 17:45 |
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try layering some other sounds over the top. and filtering the low end out of them so it leaves room for the bass (basically just reproducing the pattern oif the bass but wiith some other noises). then you can distort etc etc the new layers to add a bit of character but keep your solid bottom end
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 06-06-2007 18:17.
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06-06-2007 18:16 |
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The best technique that worked for me so far is taking a reece and filtering out everything above 300Hz. Then add distortion. Great fill.
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07-06-2007 03:14 |
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07-06-2007 03:19 |
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
The best technique that worked for me so far is taking a reece and filtering out everything above 300Hz. Then add distortion. Great fill. |
Distorting the deep end sounds like a bad idea to me. First of all, you won't hear a lot from it and second, i guess it adds muddyness. I think you should only distort anything above 200Hz and leave the lowend untouched.
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07-06-2007 09:27 |
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i'd do it the complete opposite. get a sound and distort everything ABOVE 300hz. then get a sine wav layer. to match it, hey, nice.
then , since fruity has the eq filters on every channle i just go along adn scoop the bottem off everything that doens't need it. which is everything but the kick, and even then there's some you can take.
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07-06-2007 09:39 |
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I'm probably stating the obvious but I think its important to use the envelopes to try and shape the sine wave like the original sound. That way it wont just sound like you've stuck a fat sine wave under it.
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07-06-2007 11:30 |
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detune detune detune and add a d-11 foldback distortion... set the amount at 930 and the shape somewhere between 9-1030
and pan your midrange frequencies.
and a nice compressor when you master should draw the ruckus out of it.
...hey it works for me
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