FL seems to polish samples (was: strange fenomen i think)

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FL seems to polish samples (was: strange fenomen i think)

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tipseymonkey
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ok so now i worked hard on a song and extally everything is perfect only one thing. This problem i hav'nt seen by any other program. Fl seems to clean up all imported sound or something. At the end you just can say that if you made a song there's just one thing wrong everything sounds way to clean, as if fl licks it untill in clean enough. how come? and can i turn it off ?

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by tipseymonkey: 27-05-2007 16:00.

27-05-2007 14:10

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quote:

Originally posted by tipseymonkey
Fl seems to clean up all imported sound or something. At the end you just can say that if you made a song there's just one thing wrong everything sounds way to clean, as if fl licks it untill in clean enough.

wtf

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27-05-2007 17:26

tipseymonkey
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jeah it's just that with the same samples imported in fruityloops as in such a thing like audiacity or something like that you get if you export a way to cleaner sound in fruity the raw side is a little bit gone

27-05-2007 17:55

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Is it only on the rendered track you notice this effect or is it also while playing? I noticed that the output level of the mp3´s in FL are extremely low, that could be a cause for this problem too(?)

To what bitrate do you render your tracks? Is it high enough? (128k = minimum)

Are your soundcard settings correct?

Do you use a lot of filtering?
Do you drown your sample with reverb?
Do you use stereo enhancers?
Did you select invert polarity?
What kind of effect plugins are you running on your samples?
Do you load a mastering preset on the master channel? If not what is on your master?

Did you do an AB listen test with a sample loaded in FL and the same sample in Audacity or whatever audio editor you use. Then play the basic note the sample is at (C5 in FL) and use the play button in your audio editor and check if there is a difference?

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27-05-2007 18:40

tipseymonkey
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yeah i checked the difference and the effect is idd bigger on the rendered sample so i just have to render it in something else than mp3 ?

27-05-2007 18:53

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try rendering in wav and see if it is any better...

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27-05-2007 19:15

tipseymonkey
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ok i'll try Smile

hope it's that simple it would bee a bit embarrising if it is but i'dd also be rid of the problem

27-05-2007 19:18

tipseymonkey
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hmmmm the difference is rather small

27-05-2007 19:46

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Maybe your LAME codec is faulty (since the export is too quiet). Try reinstalling the program or contact image-line. I've never noticed any sound polishing.

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27-05-2007 19:51

tipseymonkey
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it's also in the project itself so not only after the rendering
but after rendering it was even a bit bigger you know

27-05-2007 19:55

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Try this.

1) turn on song mode

2) load a sample as an audio clip

3) go to the mixer and arm disk recording for the master track (bottom left of the mixer)

4) now render the sample (using the mixer) with the following settings:
- Looping Mode: Leave Remainder
- WAV Depth: 32Bit float (0.24)

5) if it exported properly the new sample should appear under the old sample

6) turn the new sample's Reverse Polarity on and press play

What you should now hear is complete silence, which basically means fl hasn't done anything to the sound. Let us know how you get on.

btw it works the same with sample channels, it's just easier to explain with an audio track.

This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by gls: 28-05-2007 02:25.

27-05-2007 21:49

tipseymonkey
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hmmm probably i've done something wrong because i just hear the samething

27-05-2007 22:48

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the key part is the Reverse Polarity button.

if you play two identical sounds and Reverse Polarity on one they negate eachohter. one wave puses up when the other pushes down, making zero push.

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27-05-2007 23:24

tipseymonkey
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yeah i figured that out to but it doesn't seem to work i reversed polarity, let the two patters play together but i hear just the same (the patterns aren't enforcing eachother )

28-05-2007 10:43

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quote:

Originally posted by tipseymonkey
yeah i figured that out to but it doesn't seem to work i reversed polarity, let the two patters play together but i hear just the same (the patterns aren't enforcing eachother )

You've not reversed polarity on both of them have you? every time I try it I get silence. Confused

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28-05-2007 12:08

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quote:

Originally posted by tipseymonkey
ok so now i worked hard on a song and extally everything is perfect only one thing. This problem i hav'nt seen by any other program. Fl seems to clean up all imported sound or something. At the end you just can say that if you made a song there's just one thing wrong everything sounds way to clean, as if fl licks it untill in clean enough. how come? and can i turn it off ?

dont quite know what ya mean , but,
if its a more unclean, distorted sound you are after,
maybe the answer is simple, controlled distortion.

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28-05-2007 14:02

tipseymonkey
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yea i think too i'dd just rather accept this and go on make it just more fat but still i think it's odd thanx to all of you but don't think it matters anymore Smile

28-05-2007 16:44

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