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in most of my tunes ive beein usin a sampled sub or used 1 i have made. but it's about time i had a decent bass. wats the best way to make a sub? im using reason with logic. thanks

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24-04-2007 22:58
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the es1 in Logic is wicked for bass. its simple and gives you a quick fix. the sub bass patch on there is a pretty good starting point...

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25-04-2007 00:25
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Use a sine waveform and low pass it to taste (<150Hz). Try different notes/tuning and you'll find that sweet humming sub soon.

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Use a sine waveform and low pass it to taste (<150Hz). Try different notes/tuning and you'll find that sweet humming sub soon.


Sine waveforms have no harmonics so there is no point filtering it at 150 if your sine is pounding away at 55.

Anyway my tips for bass; use filtered square waves, basically you'll just get a sine wave but they should have more harmonics and give a fuller sound imo.

And if you want to use a sine layer it with another one an octave above, or below, just lower the volume on the higher octave layer so that it is only just heard. This should ensure that your bass can be heard in both the higher and lower bass frequency range.
25-04-2007 01:48
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Use a sine waveform and low pass it to taste (<150Hz). Try different notes/tuning and you'll find that sweet humming sub soon.


Sine waveforms have no harmonics so there is no point filtering it at 150 if your sine is pounding away at 55.

Anyway my tips for bass; use filtered square waves, basically you'll just get a sine wave but they should have more harmonics and give a fuller sound imo.

And if you want to use a sine layer it with another one an octave above, or below, just lower the volume on the higher octave layer so that it is only just heard. This should ensure that your bass can be heard in both the higher and lower bass frequency range.


Agree with gls, should be no need to filter a sine wavbe unless of course for some reason itsa bit clicky for one note to another.

I also like to then add some tape/tube distortion on it to warm it up a touch

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Agree with gls, should be no need to filter a sine wavbe unless of course for some reason itsa bit clicky for one note to another.

I also like to then add some tape/tube distortion on it to warm it up a touch


It's the clicky thing yes, especially when you play short bassnotes. That together with the auto detuning of sub notes can drive one to madness sometimes.

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25-04-2007 09:56 Homepage of BattleDrone
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It's the clicky thing yes, especially when you play short bassnotes.


You're probably be better off adjusting the ADSR to stop it clicking; try giving it a short attack, just enough to stop it clicking, then add some release.
25-04-2007 11:49
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Tried that before, but when you (typically) layer your sub with a non-sub bass you can sometimes hear that the sub comes in a bit delayed. Maybe I should have messed more with the attack lenght though Roll Eyes

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