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horza
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alreeeeet. I’ve been messing around with fruityloopz for a couple of days now, read a load of tutorials on the program(since it seems canny beginner friendly) and everything’s going smooth.
I’ve just started to try make my own loopz, but they just don’t sound like drum n bass, n i really cant figure out what needs tweaking/added/scrapped.
If anyone is on msn, where i could through u a few samples of what im on about, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers
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24-04-2007 22:26 |
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Halph-Price 
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well now, this VERY SITE has the samples you need, at the top int he sample sections. you'll find that the drum loops are what most DnB tracks use to sound like DnB. surya's classic breaks are a GREAT START. you can load them up in Fruity Slicer, and then use that to play the drum loop hit by hit.
i suggest learning fruity slicer well since it is a very powerful tool with ease of use. there's some good tutorials for it.
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24-04-2007 22:39 |
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horza
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cheers for the advice. Ima go read up on slicing...
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24-04-2007 22:46 |
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Seven Gun
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first of all, put your bpm to between 170/180,
so then you have the correct tempo at least.
keep trying with your own loops first, then you can master the structure of a break.
kick, hihat, snare, those are the most basic elements in making a break.
once you have that basic structure you are after, then add
more parts, such as, ride bells, cymbals, cowbells, bongos,
ghost snares, etc etc.
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04-05-2007 17:26 |
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Seven Gun
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layering your beats is also helpful.
kicks on kick, snares on snare etc
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04-05-2007 17:32 |
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Artafact
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I have the same problem here, I cant make my drums sound like dnb (basslines and synths aint the big problem). I can use the slicer and I've got quite a lot of break samples (mostly from this site) but I just cant seem to arrange them in a way that it sounds like DnB, how do you guys approach at making a new beat? For example; do you look for patterns on the internet, or just by listening?
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03-04-2008 23:31 |
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BattleDrone
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You need to do it just by listening. You can't learn this in a few hours really.
Start by analysing some basic breaks from other people to see how it is done and experiment a lot with re-arranging them.
Sometimes moving a single hit inside a break one position backward or forward changes the whole thing and give the break a whole new feel.
Find out how to layer breaks or single hits on top of the break...
To create a really pro sounding break that isn't simply a rip off from some other track you'll need to work hard. It took me a couple of years to get the grips of this and I'm still learning/improving.
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04-04-2008 10:16 |
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Artafact
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Okay, ill try that.. but moving a couple of hits around from an other break is an idea but how do I get a nice pattern to start with and move things around.. for example the "amen" break is very widely used but are there any other quite standard dnb breaks or loops that you guys here use? Thx for the help!
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04-04-2008 16:01 |
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BattleDrone
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Basically you should look for the 101 breaks pack (use search on here, you'll find the link). It contains all the classics.
Most known breaks are (amongst others) amen, tramen (also called firefight), think, coldsweat, Sesame Street, Scorpio, Funky drummer, Worm, Sport, Apache, Hot Pants, Humpty Dump, ... most of them are in the 101 breaks pack.
Don't get me wrong though, those are drum solos caught straight of old soul records, you might find messing with them difficult if you are just starting with the break business.
- Take the amen you got of here, load it into a beatslicer
- look at the size of the blocks it cuts for you, focus on the first bar only
- Listen very closely to what each block does for the rhythm.
- Where are the kicks
- where are the snares
- what is the stuff in between the kicks and snares.
- remove all the blocks and start to build your own simple version of the amen
- first put the kicks and snares on the right spots so you get that typical feel.
- Then add the other bits in between to taste.
- Move the bits around to get a different feel
- move around with a snare (especially the second snare)
- move the second kick
- add 1 extra kick on different positions of the bar and notice what it does.
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04-04-2008 21:49 |
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Artafact
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
- first put the kicks and snares on the right spots so you get that typical feel.
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And that is the thing I cant get right.. I cant get that typical feel. I know you have to practice with it but I've been practicing for about 4 months now and I still cant get the right feel.. So I wanted to ask how you guys get that typical feel in a beat. Any tips, hints or tricks?
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15-04-2008 14:26 |
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Rudeone
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Originally posted by Artafact
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
- first put the kicks and snares on the right spots so you get that typical feel.
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And that is the thing I cant get right.. I cant get that typical feel. I know you have to practice with it but I've been practicing for about 4 months now and I still cant get the right feel.. So I wanted to ask how you guys get that typical feel in a beat. Any tips, hints or tricks? |
on 4/4 172bpm
kick on 1 and 3.3
snare on 2 and 4
gives you the typical dnb feel
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15-04-2008 14:33 |
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Originally posted by Artafact
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
- first put the kicks and snares on the right spots so you get that typical feel.
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And that is the thing I cant get right.. I cant get that typical feel. I know you have to practice with it but I've been practicing for about 4 months now and I still cant get the right feel.. So I wanted to ask how you guys get that typical feel in a beat. Any tips, hints or tricks? |
4 months is not too much in this area of producing, so don't become desperate! 
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15-04-2008 14:37 |
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Artafact
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by Artafact
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
- first put the kicks and snares on the right spots so you get that typical feel.
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And that is the thing I cant get right.. I cant get that typical feel. I know you have to practice with it but I've been practicing for about 4 months now and I still cant get the right feel.. So I wanted to ask how you guys get that typical feel in a beat. Any tips, hints or tricks? |
4 months is not too much in this area of producing, so don't become desperate!
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hehe, thx for the positive input 
But tips or tricks anyone?
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15-04-2008 18:53 |
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BattleDrone
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hehe, thx for the positive input
But tips or tricks anyone? |
Read all postings in this thread... the answer is there.
I practiced over 1 year until I was able to make a rolling drumline. It took me almost 3 years to get the hang of layering and stuff.
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15-04-2008 20:37 |
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Acoustiks
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hehe, thx for the positive input
But tips or tricks anyone? |
Read all postings in this thread... the answer is there.
I practiced over 1 year until I was able to make a rolling drumline. It took me almost 3 years to get the hang of layering and stuff. |
I'm backing you up on this. To any beginners, it takes time, you aren't going to be producing professional sounding tracks for a while. It takes time. 
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