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BattleDrone 
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Wazzup?!
Got some thougths about the voting, would like to see your opinion on this topic too....
What bothers me is that the top rated track of the week has 5 stars and the track at the bottom of that list still has 4 stars. The difference between the scores is rather small.
I also encountered this 'problem' when voting for tracks, I often get the feeling that the 'distance' between the possible votes is way too big.
For example: if I have to choose between these options...
- Awful! It goes on forever or jumps randomly from one part to another
- Some bad mistakes in the buildup
- Average, could be improved
- Good structure, great tension building
- Excellent, everything is just spot on!
...to judge the buildup of a track which is - let's say - somewhat below average, I would like to vote something in between of 'Some bad mistakes in the buildup' and 'Average, could be improved'.
I'd suggest to add an option between all the existing options so you double the possibilities allowing the voters to refine their opinion an thus get a better variation on the score.
I'd also suggest to display a score like "78/100" besides the stars, this would also clear out the up/down movements on the charts.
And since I'm on a nagging trip anyway... A chart with hottest tracks of all-time would be cool too and would not mean a lot of extra work I think.
But hey Chron, I know you are doing a hell of a job allready, so don't hurry anything and give priority to stuff that really matters.
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by BattleDrone: 05-02-2007 12:30.
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05-02-2007 12:29 |
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djfreemc
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If I'm not mistaken the chron has allready added a mathematical/statistical algorithm to the scores in order to make the differences in the scores bigger, because most of the ratings ended up somewhere between 3 and 3,5 or something, and now they are spread out some more. (Correct me if I'm wrong chron...)
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05-02-2007 21:09 |
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Greyone
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maybe right battledrone
chron you did a good job up to now
and also a cool thing is the listings of each top 5 tracks of the month of the passed years ( and the comming years) on a new page.
So people can scroll back into time and see/hear those.
or you can make that the top 10 to be more loyal
just a suggestion for the future 
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12-02-2007 01:11 |
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thechronic
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
What bothers me is that the top rated track of the week has 5 stars and the track at the bottom of that list still has 4 stars. The difference between the scores is rather small.
I'd also suggest to display a score like "78/100" besides the stars, this would also clear out the up/down movements on the charts.
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I got something similar already on the site but I'm the only one that can see it atm. I put up a numeric representation of the scores behind the stars during the development of the voting system. I'll convert this to a score on 100 points and make it visible for everyone. That will only take a couple of minutes to do.
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
I also encountered this 'problem' when voting for tracks, I often get the feeling that the 'distance' between the possible votes is way too big.
For example: if I have to choose between these options...
- Awful! It goes on forever or jumps randomly from one part to another
- Some bad mistakes in the buildup
- Average, could be improved
- Good structure, great tension building
- Excellent, everything is just spot on!
...to judge the buildup of a track which is - let's say - somewhat below average, I would like to vote something in between of 'Some bad mistakes in the buildup' and 'Average, could be improved'.
I'd suggest to add an option between all the existing options so you double the possibilities allowing the voters to refine their opinion an thus get a better variation on the score.
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Ooh that would be an enormous amount of work, it might seem simple but I will have to redo the whole calculation routines and convert all existing votes.
It might be easier if you think of the individual ratings as 'bad - below average - average - above average - great'. That's all it is really, it gives points from 1/5 to 5/5 for each aspect. The lenghty explanations are just to give you an idea of how to interpret the scores.
But if more people would be interested to have finer control over the votes (eg 7 points, like the first vote) just post in this thread and I'll consider it for the future.
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A chart with hottest tracks of all-time would be cool too and would not mean a lot of extra work I think. |
We already have that, if you use the sorting options in the music page you can see the best tracks of all time.
You can also see this by clicking on 'Click here to see all top rated tracks' on the front page.
check it out here 
I know there is a bug in it that causes the last half of the list to be empty. These are all tracks with less than three votes, they are not displayed atm, I just haven't had the time to fix this.
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12-02-2007 16:12 |
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thechronic
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Originally posted by thechronic
I got something similar already on the site but I'm the only one that can see it atm. I put up a numeric representation of the scores behind the stars during the development of the voting system. I'll convert this to a score on 100 points and make it visible for everyone. That will only take a couple of minutes to do. |
I've put this in, the scores are now displayed as percentages. This is only visible for registered producers and moderators.
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12-02-2007 17:06 |
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thechronic
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Originally posted by djfreemc
If I'm not mistaken the chron has allready added a mathematical/statistical algorithm to the scores in order to make the differences in the scores bigger, because most of the ratings ended up somewhere between 3 and 3,5 or something, and now they are spread out some more. (Correct me if I'm wrong chron...) |
Yeah that's right, i think the ratings are now quite on the spot - in most cases if a track has 5+ votes the rating gives a pretty good indication of the track quality imo.
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12-02-2007 17:22 |
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thechronic
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Originally posted by Greyone
and also a cool thing is the listings of each top 5 tracks of the month of the passed years ( and the comming years) on a new page.
So people can scroll back into time and see/hear those.
or you can make that the top 10 to be more loyal
just a suggestion for the future
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Nice idea, I'll put it in my to do list
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12-02-2007 17:23 |
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BattleDrone
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Originally posted by thechronic
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
What bothers me is that the top rated track of the week has 5 stars and the track at the bottom of that list still has 4 stars. The difference between the scores is rather small.
I'd also suggest to display a score like "78/100" besides the stars, this would also clear out the up/down movements on the charts.
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I got something similar already on the site but I'm the only one that can see it atm. I put up a numeric representation of the scores behind the stars during the development of the voting system. I'll convert this to a score on 100 points and make it visible for everyone. That will only take a couple of minutes to do.
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Fucking cool(e) shit man! 
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12-02-2007 23:37 |
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Rudeone
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nice, this just keeps gettin better n better! 
gotta rinse some proper tunes
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13-02-2007 11:07 |
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Originally posted by Rudeone
nice, this just keeps gettin better n better!
gotta rinse some proper tunes
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Gotta agree in full. Chronic doing the site up proper. Only thing about the precentages, I feel like I am in school again
, next thing you know, your gonna put A-F grades 
Respekt Chron
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13-02-2007 19:02 |
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call me blind and stupid but...
when someone has used the voting system to vote for your track, can you see the information anywhere?
ie if everyone has said that your track had NO dancefloor appeal, can you go somewhere to see this???
Cheers,
wT
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11-11-2007 02:37 |
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BattleDrone
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Originally posted by wTrouble
call me blind and stupid but...
when someone has used the voting system to vote for your track, can you see the information anywhere?
ie if everyone has said that your track had NO dancefloor appeal, can you go somewhere to see this???
Cheers,
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Not yet, it is on the to-do list, but the big chief is on tour right now, this could be added in wintertime.
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17-11-2007 11:16 |
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